A Dangerous Solar Storm in 2012

[lionking]

Imagine life without running water from a tap, no refrigeration for storing food, gas for your car, or mass transit due to the power grid being off line for months. Millions of Americans could subsequently die in such a scenario described by Michael Brooks author of the New Scientist article, "Space storm alert - 90 seconds from catastrophe."



Such disturbing scenarios are very possible according to the National Research Council report. Now is the right time for bold action to replace the outdated electrical power grid with a decentralized form of fuelless or 'new energy' generators that can be mass produced for homes, small businesses and essential services.

A workshop was convened on May 22-23, 2008 by the Committee on the Societal and Economic Impacts of Severe Space Weather to,

“consider both direct and collateral effects of severe space weather events, the current state of the space weather services infrastructure in the United States, the needs of users of space weather data and services, and the ramifications of future technological developments for contemporary society's vulnerability to space weather.”

The panel of scientists that met and issued a report warning about the impact of a severe solar storm hitting the Earth based their findings on data concerning the sun becoming more active around 2012.



At the time of their meeting, they did not consider what was later revealed by NASA on December 16, 2008 to be a giant hole in the Earth’s magnetosphere that will last the entire 11 year duration of cycle 24.



What this means is that the low possibility discussed by the May 2008 panel for solar storms impacting the Earth, is in fact much more likely to occur around 2012 as the sun become increasingly active.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_2012_30.htm

Is this true according to your knowledge? will we go back to the dark ages?

[laurel]

Michael Salla also thought Nancy Lieder was a credible source of information about what happened to Steve Fossett.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_dimensiones02.htm

He thought the Space Shuttle Columbia may have been "a high profile victim in a proxy war being conducted by clandestine government organizations over hidden extraterrestrial technology."
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZZZC.htm


Then he suggested Columbia was shot down by a "plasma beam weapon." He found a YouTube video that proves it.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZZZB.htm

He believes the alleged Apollo 20 mission was real and that they found a dead alien female. Also Apollo 15 photographed wreckage of an alien spacecraft on the Moon.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_36a.htm

I think I'll take his predictions with a grain of salt.

[vq]

Apr 26, 2009 13:18:44 GMT -4 laurel said:

Michael Salla also thought Nancy Lieder was a credible source of information about what happened to Steve Fossett.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_dimensiones02.htm

He thought the Space Shuttle Columbia may have been "a high profile victim in a proxy war being conducted by clandestine government organizations over hidden extraterrestrial technology."
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZZZC.htm


Then he suggested Columbia was shot down by a "plasma beam weapon." He found a YouTube video that proves it.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZZZB.htm

He believes the alleged Apollo 20 mission was real and that they found a dead alien female. Also Apollo 15 photographed wreckage of an alien spacecraft on the Moon.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_36a.htm

I think I'll take his predictions with a grain of salt.

Very nice. This probably belongs in the "beyond belief" section.

[gillianren]

I read, I believe on BAUT, that NASA scoffs at the very idea.

[lionking]

Very nice. This probably belongs in the "beyond belief" section.

good. better than it belonging to a 'belief' section. I should stop reading news on those opposition websites.

[scooter]

There was an article in an Astronomy magazine some time back about "the big one". Rare solar events have been known to cause widespread power outages, satellite failures and such.

I don't know about all that other stuff, but a serious event on the Sun, which has happened in the past, could cause serious problems for and electronics based society.

Imagine the world without the internet...or cellphones...for just a day.

[gillianren]

Um, it would be the way things were twenty years ago?

No, I know--a lot of commerce relies on the internet, and there are people who don't even have landlines. I'm just saying that it's not actually as unthinkable as all that.

[trevor]

It's funny, 2012 coincides with the 'end of the world' predictions that some people have tied in with the end of the Mayan Calander at 13.0.0.0.0, with solar flares and pole reversal destroying the world. Of course it could just flick over to 0.0.0.0.1. only 3 years. All my aircraft compasses will need recalibration for the northern hemisphere!

[gillianren]

I suspect that's where the "prediction" came from, yes.

[Ian Pearse]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the "90 seconds" is that is mentioned in the title of the New Scientist article referred in the initial posting?

Edit: I've found the New Scientist article in question. Interestingly, a recent report has shown the Sun to be unusually quiet at the moment - no sunspots and very little in the way of flare activity. No-one can even hazard a guess as to why. Even after all the effort that has gone into studying it, the Sun can still surprise us.

[Jason]

Just a little reminder of how little we really know about climate, the sun, and the universe at large.

[archer17]

Apr 29, 2009 7:37:03 GMT -4 Ian Pearse said:

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the "90 seconds" is that is mentioned in the title of the New Scientist article referred in the initial posting?

Edit: I've found the New Scientist article in question. Interestingly, a recent report has shown the Sun to be unusually quiet at the moment - no sunspots and very little in the way of flare activity. No-one can even hazard a guess as to why. Even after all the effort that has gone into studying it, the Sun can still surprise us.

Yes it can. I remember the intense solar activity (during a supposed 'quiet period') in the fall of 2003 and '04 which resulted in my seeing the aurora for the first times in my life from Pittsburgh which is 40 deg latitude, well south of most auroral displays.

Regarding the potential ramifications of a "super" solar storm, most here know the potential always exists for such an event and in the late 1980s Quebec's power grid got a whiff of what likely would happen on a much larger scale if such a thing happens. Having said that, any correlation between mega-solar storms and the Maya calender (or any other woo that beats the 2012 doomsday drum) is purely an invention from those that prey on the gullible.