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Post by Kiwi on May 28, 2009 6:28:35 GMT -4
A hill looks like a hill. Well whoopee... Yeah. If it's any help, Inconceivable, yesterday I drove 40 km to town, the first 10-12 km being past and through sand dunes which are fairly rounded like the lunar landscape. None of the distant peaks of the Tararua and Ruahine ranges that I glanced at were much like anything on the moon because they are too jagged, but just beyond the boundary of my village I saw cows ripping into a pile of hay, the shape of which reminded me of South Massif and the Hawaiian hill. About two km further along was a sandhill which reminded me of Mount Hadley (Apollo 15), and later on came ones like Cone Crater (Apollo 14), Stone Mountain (Apollo 16) and North Massif and Wessex Cleft (Apollo 17). I didn't see any hills like the ones around the Apollo 11 landing site, mainly because there weren't any. How do you explain the photos taken from near the Apollo 17 LM and the ones at Station 6 that show South Massif is many km away -- much further away and much bigger than the Hawaiian hill. And what about Cernan and Schmitt driving all the way to Nansen crater at the base of South Massif and taking panorama photos of the area, and photos taken up its northern slope showing rocks on it and also with the earth above in the black lunar sky? What about the TV images taken from the same location and others which also show different perspectives of South Massif? Have you considered them? Regarding the vegetation, as this was close to the Vietnam war, don't you think "they" would have simply agent-oranged or napalmed it? Have you compared Mount Hadley Delta with South Massif? Perhaps "they" recycled them for the two landings because they have their similarities. Strikingly lunar mountain-like. |
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Post by inconceivable on May 28, 2009 11:14:44 GMT -4
Let me shift the goal post a bit while I look for some old pictures of Mauna Kea and Maui. Nasa tested the SCARAB their lunar prospecting robot in Mauna Kea. Their site was chosen because of its Lunar like chemistry. The robot is extracting oxygen and hydrogen from the soil and producing water and oxygen. They claim this area is the closest you can come on Earth to being on the moon. Many people landing on the big island comment on how it resembles the moon.
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Post by Bob B. on May 28, 2009 13:07:05 GMT -4
So what?
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Post by gillianren on May 28, 2009 13:39:51 GMT -4
Regarding the vegetation, as this was close to the Vietnam war, don't you think "they" would have simply agent-oranged or napalmed it? "Close to"? |
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Post by laurel on May 28, 2009 13:48:10 GMT -4
It is known that these areas are geologically unstable. So , the gradiant may have changed. Photos from the 1960's would be better to use. Here are some Haleakala photos from 1969. ian.umces.edu/imagelibrary/thumbnails-10-page-13.htmlThis site says, "The view of the crater from the rim is often likened to the surface of the moon. Indeed, the scene is punctuated by small depressions and rocky peaks, and particularly from the west side, there is little vegetation." However, "One of the most interesting phenomena which changes its appearance is the presence of transitory clouds and mists which frequently move across the landscape, hiding and revealing the crater's features." Something you don't see on the Moon. www.shannontech.com/Parkvision/Haleakala/Haleakala.html#TheCrater |
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Post by laurel on May 28, 2009 13:57:12 GMT -4
Let me shift the goal post a bit... At least you admit to doing that. Some HBs won't. They say the soil is similar. But when you look at video of it being tested, the area still has a blue sky and green vegetation and nobody is going to mistake it for the Moon. www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2UqCpr5Oh0And how many of them have actually been to the Moon and can make an informed comparison?  |
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Post by AtomicDog on May 28, 2009 21:49:31 GMT -4
Let me shift the goal post a bit while I look for some old pictures of Mauna Kea and Maui. Nasa tested the SCARAB their lunar prospecting robot in Mauna Kea. Their site was chosen because of its Lunar like chemistry. The robot is extracting oxygen and hydrogen from the soil and producing water and oxygen. They claim this area is the closest you can come on Earth to being on the moon. Many people landing on the big island comment on how it resembles the moon. Still waiting for how testing lunar equipment on Earth is evidence of a hoax. |
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Post by Count Zero on May 29, 2009 9:38:04 GMT -4
Let me shift the goal post a bit while I look for some old pictures of Mauna Kea and Maui. Nasa tested the SCARAB their lunar prospecting robot in Mauna Kea. Their site was chosen because of its Lunar like chemistry. The robot is extracting oxygen and hydrogen from the soil and producing water and oxygen. They claim this area is the closest you can come on Earth to being on the moon. Many people landing on the big island comment on how it resembles the moon. You think that testing a prototype moon robot in terrain resembling the Moon is "interesting". Do you think that testing it in a redwood forest would have been a productive use of time and yielded valid results? |
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Post by Bob B. on May 29, 2009 10:04:57 GMT -4
Still waiting for how testing lunar equipment on Earth is evidence of a hoax. Don't you know, Testing lunar equipment on Earth = Hoax. Not testing lunar equipment on Earth = Hoax. Just ask any hoax believer, he'll tell you. |
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