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Post by Jairo on Nov 21, 2009 0:58:18 GMT -4
It may, but the fault in Pokrovsky's work lies in his carefully-disguised or off-the-record derivations, assumptions, and simplifications. Those will not be easily spotted by the reader. Whether those sins were committed by an expert or a layman does not materially alter their nature or why they compromise his findings. OK. (That is just for curiosity: are David Grove's credentials for real?) |
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Post by bijumathewsxxxx on Nov 21, 2009 7:55:26 GMT -4
The whole episode is fake.
Why they dont allow Neil Amstrong and other so called astronauts
to speak to public?
They r afraid the truth wil come out.
It will take another 500 years of technology for a man to walk on moon.
They are astronauts
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Post by Cavorite on Nov 21, 2009 8:51:56 GMT -4
What led you to believe the astronauts aren't "allowed" to speak in public? Al Bean, for one, will come give a talk for you if you can pay his speaker's fee: premierespeakers.com/alan_beanOthers have frequently given interviews and talks. Neil Armstrong is a bit retiring, as is his right, but even he has been interviewed on national television. Perhaps you need to broaden your sources somewhat. Why "500 years"? Why not 20, or 1,000? Why that particular figure? What particular technology do you think is or was lacking? |
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Post by frenat on Nov 21, 2009 11:22:56 GMT -4
Does anyone hear a seagull?
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Post by Daggerstab on Nov 21, 2009 11:37:11 GMT -4
Wapedia is a fork/mirror of Wikipedia adapted for mobile devices. The original Wikipedia article has been deleted as a POV fork. The deletion discussion is archived here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Apollo_Moon_landing_hoax_accusersOne of the participants in that discussion has built a nice pro-hoax walled garden on another wiki that I won't mention. (I don't want to give it extra publicity and I don't want to spend precious neurons engaging him there.) Thanks for mentioning this - that discussion allowed me to identify him and his probable motivation. Also, I suggest using Google Translate - I thinks it's a bit more accurate than Babelfish. translate.google.com/ |
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 21, 2009 11:50:14 GMT -4
The whole episode is fake.Many people have tried to claim this, but in 35 years of trying none has been able to come up with a theory that doesn't fall apart as soon as it's examined by people who know what they're talking about. Why they dont allow Neil Amstrong and other so called astronauts
to speak to public?What makes you think the Apollo astronauts don't speak to the public? They r afraid the truth wil come out.So why aren't all the conspiracy theorists silenced? It will take another 500 years of technology for a man to walk on moon.Experts in engineering disagree with you.
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Post by randombloke on Nov 21, 2009 12:21:20 GMT -4
No, the moron's* totally correct; it probably would take another 500 years to get back to 1960's technology if we were dumb enough to nuke ourselves back to the stone age somehow.
I was going to say "seagull" but this twerp is an insult to seagulls everywhere. Dude's not even trying.
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 21, 2009 12:24:17 GMT -4
The whole episode is fake. Why they dont allow Neil Amstrong and other so called astronauts to speak to public? They r afraid the truth wil come out. It will take another 500 years of technology for a man to walk on moon. They are astronauts Okay, that's a good start. Now lets start seeing some evidence. |
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Post by LunarOrbit on Nov 21, 2009 13:30:04 GMT -4
Why they dont allow Neil Amstrong and other so called astronauts to speak to public? You're wrong. I have personally attended a public event in which Buzz Aldrin spoke about his time with NASA, including the Apollo 11 moon landing. Explain which technology did not exist that main going to the moon impossible in 1969. |
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Post by laurel on Nov 21, 2009 13:38:33 GMT -4
Why they dont [sic] allow Neil Amstrong and other so called astronauts to speak to public? Wait a second, if they don't allow the Apollo astronauts to speak in public, who was I watching in the documentary In The Shadow Of The Moon? www.intheshadowofthemoon.com/Or this 60 Minutes interview from 2005? video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1722270428583799532Or the documentary The Wonder Of It All? www.thewonderofitallfilm.com/trailer.htmlOr the miniseries When We Left Earth? dsc.discovery.com/tv/nasa/nasa.htmlNot to mention all the interviews in print like the ALSJ and Andrew Chaikin's Voices From the Moon. This is just another distasteful example of hoax believers being incredibly ignorant and arrogant at the same time. "I barely know anything about the Apollo program, but I know it was all faked!"  |
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Post by LunarOrbit on Nov 21, 2009 13:50:50 GMT -4
It's crazy, isn't it Laurel? Hoax believers lack even the most basic knowledge of Apollo but somehow believe they know more than all of the scientists and engineers around the world who would immediately realize if NASA tried to fake it.
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Post by Count Zero on Nov 22, 2009 1:01:26 GMT -4
Does anyone hear a seagull? I'll get some Alka-Seltzer. I keed, I keed... |
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Post by echnaton on Nov 22, 2009 1:04:10 GMT -4
The whole episode is fake. Why they dont allow Neil Amstrong and other so called astronauts to speak to public? Since the speaking issue has been settled we can address the books that have been written by Apollo astronauts. That is quite a few words for men who have been silenced. Magnificent Desolation : The Long Journey Home from the Moon by Buzz Aldrin Carrying the Fire : An Astronaut's Journeys by Michael Collins Rocketman : Astronaut Pete Conrad's Incredible Ride to the Moon and Beyond by Nancy Conrad, Howard A. Klausner, Buzz Aldrin The Last Man on the Moon : Astronaut Eugene Cernan and America's Race in Space by Eugene Cernan, Way of the Explorer : An Apollo Astronaut's Journey through the Material and Mystical Worlds by Edgar Mitchell, Dwight Williams Apollo : An Eyewitness Account By Astronaut/Explorer Artist/Moonwalker by Alan Bean Deke! : U.S. Manned Space: From Mercury to the Shuttle by Donald K. Slayton, Michael Cassutt, Deke Slayton The All-American Boys by Walt Cunningham Schirra's Space by Wally Schirra, Richard Billings Two Sides of the Moon : Our Story of the Cold War Space Race by David Scott, Alexei Leonov, Neil Armstrong |
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 22, 2009 11:24:18 GMT -4
(That is just for curiosity: are David Grove's credentials for real?) Now that we've cleaned up the seagull droppings... The short answer to your question is "unknown." Many of us would like nothing more than to locate David Groves and ask him about his credentials and experience. Sadly, no one knows where he is. Percy does not give us enough information about Groves' education to verify it. Groves' professional association is to a company known as Quantech Image Processing. My associates in the U.K. have confirmed that such a company once existed but has been defunct now for a great number of years. Percy handles Groves' information in a way that suggests we are supposed to take it as the opinion of a qualified expert. That is, he relies upon Groves' qualifications to validate the work. Unfortunately the tests Groves has performed on Percy's behalf lead us to believe it is not the work of a qualified scientist. The most egregious failure is the test in which Groves purports to duplicate the thermal environment of space using an ordinary oven. Groves bakes film in an oven (i.e., convective heat transfer) and suggests that the destruction of the film that resulted would be the fate of photographic film in space. Since the difference between different modes of heat transfer is well known to advanced high school students, we would expect someone with post-graduate degrees in the physical sciences to remember that. |
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