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Post by gillianren on Jun 18, 2010 12:41:06 GMT -4
Childishness?
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Post by drewid on Jun 18, 2010 15:33:47 GMT -4
Well her profile did say she was only 14
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Post by brotherofthemoon on Jun 18, 2010 18:52:44 GMT -4
what gets me is that Neil Armstrong had a serious accident with some machine (it was supposed to be Moon friendly) The water dispenser accidentally sprayed hot water on his hand? The moon toaster made his bread too dark? An oxygen tank exploded? Seriously, the authoritative vagueness of this statement befuddles me.
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Post by dragonblaster on Jun 19, 2010 3:57:44 GMT -4
Seriously, the authoritative vagueness of this statement befuddles me. Well, I'm sure this is a confused remembrance of Neil ejecting from the LLRV, and it's honest in its intent, if otherwise confused. A serious accident (after all, Neil did bite his tongue on landing!), but I think the OP sgould respond to these points: - The craft was called the Lunar Landing Research Vehicle (LLRV)
- Two of these were made, followed by three more advanced machines called Lunar Landing Training Vehicles (LLTV)
Neil was flying LLRV1, which had made 281 successful flights before this time.
- You can see one of Neil's successful LLRV flights in its entirety at www.dailymotion.com/video/x5mxqz_neil-armstrong-llrv-aka-flying-beds_music
- When Neil Armstrong crashed, he had been successfully flying the LLRV for several minutes, but a fuel tank developed a helium leak, meaning that he lost attitude control - a bad way to fly. It was an accident, not a flaw in the design or concept of the LLRV.
- One LLRV and two LLTVs crashed - they were indeed tricky machines to fly, but all three accidents were caused by mechanical failures, not by an inability to fly the machine.
- The three accidents should be seen in the context of being three flights out of 800 - high for, say, a consumer motor vehicle, but good compared to the three accidents out of 199 flights for the X-15 rocket plane.
- Oh, and Neil flew the X-15 as well!
But of course, she won't.
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Post by Count Zero on Jun 20, 2010 22:11:38 GMT -4
According to this site, the Hindenburg landed successfully 62 times, including 9 normal landings at Lakehurst, NJ. For some reason, you don't normally see footage of these landings...
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Post by laurel on Jun 20, 2010 22:36:30 GMT -4
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Post by dragonblaster on Jun 21, 2010 15:54:07 GMT -4
And, like the LLRV/TV accidents, it wasn't a design flaw. It hit a flock of birds.
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Post by raven on Jun 22, 2010 11:29:06 GMT -4
And, like the LLRV/TV accidents, it wasn't a design flaw. It hit a flock of birds. Well, that's something a lunar lander is unlikely to encounter. ;D
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Post by capricorn1 on Jun 22, 2010 18:02:31 GMT -4
This man actually told all the world about the Moon story...And later in that same interview told everyone it was an "outrageous" story he made up to embarrass the government over its treatment of veterans. Where can I verify this? Junior debunking for dummies, just want to be able to pass it on!
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Post by laurel on Jun 22, 2010 18:18:29 GMT -4
Well, Kaysing said in an interview, "What motivated me to spill the beans was a young man from the Vietnam wars by the name of John Grant. He said that he was sent to Vietnam to kill people with no good reason and he also got a heroin habit, and he says, 'Bill,' he says, 'what I want you to do is blow the whistle on this rotten, corrupt government.' He says, 'Why don't you say something outrageous, like, we never went to the moon?' So I attribute my interest in this project to John Grant." www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.htmlNote that he was complaining about government treatment of veterans, but he seemed fine with making unfounded accusations against the Apollo astronauts, many of whom were also combat veterans (mostly in the Korean War, but Ron Evans served in Vietnam). Hypocritical.
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Post by dragonblaster on Jun 24, 2010 11:28:13 GMT -4
And, like the LLRV/TV accidents, it wasn't a design flaw. It hit a flock of birds. Well, that's something a lunar lander is unlikely to encounter. ;D I don't know, raven. If someone left the door to the film set hangar open, a flock of buzzards might fly in... Then again, maybe that's the SMOKING GUN! Ah-HA! When Armstrong said, "the Eagle has landed", he was talking literally, about a member of Nevada's avian community that had just flopped to the ground in front of the Lunar Module. Of course, they edited out the director's annoyed "CUTCUT CUT! Who opened the f**king hangar door? There's bird crap all over the Lunar Module! Get it cleaned up NOW!" It was only after that that the NASA Illuminati concocted this ludicrous, laughable cover story, that Eagle was actually the name of the so-called "lunar module"! You'll notice that they had to rush the mission patch art out so quickly that they didn't even have time to put the so-called "astronauts'" names on it! EVERY OTHER APOLLO MISSION PATCH HAD THE ASTRONAUTS' ACTORS' NAMES ON IT! A blatant retro-coverup if ever I saw one.
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Post by echnaton on Jun 24, 2010 11:41:21 GMT -4
Stop that! It's making my head hurt.
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Post by laurel on Jun 24, 2010 12:18:01 GMT -4
The Apollo 13 patch doesn't have the astronauts' names on it either. But otherwise Dragonblaster's theory sounds perfectly valid to me.
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Post by Al Johnston on Jun 25, 2010 4:18:34 GMT -4
The Apollo 13 patch doesn't have the astronauts' names on it either. But otherwise Dragonblaster's theory sounds perfectly valid to me. You mean the Apollo 13 astronauts weren't named Ex, Luna and Scientia? ;D
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Post by dragonblaster on Jun 25, 2010 8:40:13 GMT -4
The Apollo 13 patch doesn't have the astronauts' names on it either. But otherwise Dragonblaster's theory sounds perfectly valid to me. You mean the Apollo 13 astronauts weren't named Ex, Luna and Scientia? ;D More proof. They were the Section 6 Ultra Illuminati code names of Lovell, Haise and Swigert. Oh, what a give-away! Ken Mattingly didn't like his proposed codename of Earwax, and he threatened to blow the whistle, so they said they'd give him the measles if he didn't play ball - the Big Ill were still perfecting their nasty little craft in those days.
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