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Post by rodin on Sept 10, 2010 10:49:42 GMT -4
Growing up, we thought that if the Russians bombed the U.S., they would come from over the Arctic and some could land on us. Right out of 1984. Fear of a remote enemy to bind a population. But not as 'to the letter' as how 'Osama Bin Ladin' became the new 'Emmanuel Goldstein'
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Post by rodin on Sept 10, 2010 10:50:43 GMT -4
Cool 3 pages and the purported OP hasn't posted anything. First time I have seen replies first. lol getting their retaliation in first
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Post by rodin on Sept 10, 2010 10:57:52 GMT -4
Well that's the cover story. Truth is patton was flaming mad because Eisenhower was determined to give Berlin and Eastern Europe to the Commies. This was because Eisenhower was allied with them.
I posted the lend lease inventory on another thread will repost here if you like. OK gata go have a good weekend
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Post by rodin on Sept 10, 2010 11:02:04 GMT -4
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Post by rodin on Sept 10, 2010 11:20:44 GMT -4
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Post by tedward on Sept 10, 2010 12:08:31 GMT -4
Well that's the cover story. Truth is patton was flaming mad because Eisenhower was determined to give Berlin and Eastern Europe to the Commies. This was because Eisenhower was allied with them. I posted the lend lease inventory on another thread will repost here if you like. OK gata go have a good weekend Oh dear. Eisenhower had a slight problem as did Churchill and that was Stalin. No one was in cahoots with him. He had a trained battle hardened army in Europe and the Far East. Stalin felt he was owed big time and took what he could as payment for his sacrifice. He saw it as his sacrifice despite sacrificing others for his self belief. You really need to understand the players not bend the facts to fit your belief.
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Post by PeterB on Sept 10, 2010 12:20:38 GMT -4
Regarding the pretend Fall of the Berlin Wall video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2307456730142665916&hl=en#Bezmenov was employed at a level where people still thought Communist and Capitalist societies were in opposition. He saw the US as being infiltrated from the USSR. What he did not know perhaps was who was really behind the Russian Revolution of 1917. Very important to determine this. Turns out it is the same crowd who were behind the establishment of the Federal Reserve in 1913 Right, so the Korean War was faked? The Vietnam War? The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?
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Post by PeterB on Sept 10, 2010 12:24:53 GMT -4
Well that's the cover story. Truth is patton was flaming mad because Eisenhower was determined to give Berlin and Eastern Europe to the Commies. This was because Eisenhower was allied with them. I posted the lend lease inventory on another thread will repost here if you like. OK gata go have a good weekend Seeing as Eisenhower had let the Soviets conquer Berlin back in April (and let them take the casualties) why would Eisenhower have Patton killed in December? And if you're talking more generally about Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, how were the Western Allies supposed to stop this in December 1945, seeing as the Red Army had occupied most of Eastern Europe by the end of 1944?
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Post by PeterB on Sept 10, 2010 12:33:45 GMT -4
Rodin quoted: I've read Australian newspapers printed during World War Two (on microfilm at the National Library of Australia). "United Nations" was a term used to describe the Allied alliance from some time in 1942. And there's nothing suspicious about the term subsequently being applied to the body as it exists today - well before the end of World War Two people were considering how to try to prevent a repeat of the war, and had decided to replace the League of Nations.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 10, 2010 12:50:22 GMT -4
Al Gore is a carbon billionaire. He was in the Club of Rome along with such luminaries as Henry Kissinger when they came up with this idea This thread is not intended to discuss global warming.
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Post by PeterB on Sept 10, 2010 12:53:05 GMT -4
Douglas Reed was the UK's premier war correspondent Uh huh. According to whom? Wikipedia says "Reed spent the duration of the Second World War in England..." Let's compare this to war correspondents I've actually heard of, like Chester Wilmot and Richard Dimbleby, who actually travelled with the soldiers whose battles they described.
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Post by tedward on Sept 10, 2010 12:59:41 GMT -4
Douglas Reed was the UK's premier war correspondent Uh huh. According to whom? Wikipedia says "Reed spent the duration of the Second World War in England..." Let's compare this to war correspondents I've actually heard of, like Chester Wilmot and Richard Dimbleby, who actually travelled with the soldiers whose battles they described. Was going to ask the same. I have read a few reports from the front line. These were embedded with the invading forces at D Day.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 10, 2010 13:01:50 GMT -4
Well that's the cover story. Do you have any evidence that it is not the truth, or are you simply basing your belief on what you've read on conspiracy theory websites? I suspect you have a hard time telling the difference between fact and fiction. Yes, he was allied with the Russians during WW2. So what? Surely you understand that just because two countries were allies at one point in time doesn't mean they can't later become foes. To use an analogy, a man and a women can love each other and get married, and then years later hate each other and divorce. I'm sure you've heard the old saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Well, during WW2 the Nazi were a bigger concern than the Russians. After WW2 things were different and the US and USSR were no longer allies.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 10, 2010 13:02:55 GMT -4
But not as 'to the letter' as how 'Osama Bin Ladin' became the new 'Emmanuel Goldstein' Off topic.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 10, 2010 13:03:32 GMT -4
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