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Post by dwight on Oct 11, 2010 6:22:48 GMT -4
And amazingly, no matter how out there the 'theories' may be there are always a pack who believe it. As long as apollo was faked, it doesn't matter what outlandish crap gets proposed - and that is sad, sad, sad.
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Post by kallewirsch on Oct 11, 2010 10:46:35 GMT -4
I really do despair for the future of the human race. Many of the theories and ideas are simple laziness or dishonest researching. I don't agree. Many, if not most, of those theories are simply lack of common sense or not beeing able to look out of the window (eg. the shadow argumentation). In my opinion, the VAB argument is one of the few, where reasearch on the topic is necessary. All the remaining ones can be sorted out with just looking around (shadows, ...) respectively doing some simple experiments (flag lit from both sides, reflections in helmet, ...) respectively using common sense (bringing the rover onto the set, ...) But lets face it. The originator of the hoax theories are not interested in 'the truth'. They are interested in getting attention or (I hate to say that) in making money. Plain and simple.
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Post by lukepemberton on Oct 11, 2010 23:43:16 GMT -4
I really do despair for the future of the human race. Many of the theories and ideas are simple laziness or dishonest researching. I don't agree. Many, if not most, of those theories are simply lack of common sense or not being able to look out of the window (eg. the shadow argumentation). In my opinion, the VAB argument is one of the few, where research on the topic is necessary. All the remaining ones can be sorted out with just looking around (shadows, ...) respectively doing some simple experiments (flag lit from both sides, reflections in helmet, ...) respectively using common sense (bringing the rover onto the set, ...) But lets face it. The originator of the hoax theories are not interested in 'the truth'. They are interested in getting attention or (I hate to say that) in making money. Plain and simple. This is a fair point, and I agree some hoax theorists lack common sense or are simply unable to see the wood for their particular tree. It takes all sorts I guess. However, I have experienced those who are clearly dishonest. Jarrah White and a band of his hard core followers are good examples of dishonesty; changing previous stories to suit, shifting the goal posts and ignoring well reasoned evidence and arguments. Their modus operandi is beyond a simple lack of common sense and missing the obvious.
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Post by Glom on Oct 23, 2010 15:12:06 GMT -4
Thats funny. I guess the moon hoax crowd thinks rockets are supposed to just go straight up until fuel burnout with no pitchover. Of course. Haven't you seen Armageddon? That movie told us the truth about launch trajectories and the fact that main engine cut off does not actually feature the main engines cutting off.
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 23, 2010 17:01:35 GMT -4
Didn't that movie also confirm that the boosters and external tank are all jetisoned at the same time?
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Post by Data Cable on Oct 24, 2010 14:11:19 GMT -4
..and that the force vector of centrifugal "gravity" points opposite the direction of rotation, not away from the rotational axis...
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