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Post by photobuster919 on Apr 3, 2011 8:23:27 GMT -4
Now that I think about it this moon rocks special may actually turn out to be Jarrah's ultimate downfall.
Remember Jarrah falsely claimed early in the Radioactive Anomoly II video that a growing number of people were no longer believing the Moon Landings as his videos got more views than Phil Plaits.
This as we know is refutable just as all Jarrah's other false claims about his videos.
If he actually goes ahead and posts an 8-hour documentary he will see the numbe of us watching his videos will go down as few will be willing to sit through the entire film.
When that day comes Jarrah will need to rethink his claim about a "growing" number of HB and then he will start to realise the huge inaccuracy of the ajority of his hoax claims.
Even Kaysing came out and admitted he believed the Moon Landings, one day Jarrah will come around too.
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Post by trebor on Apr 3, 2011 19:40:48 GMT -4
Even Kaysing came out and admitted he believed the Moon Landings.... Did he?
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Post by lukepemberton on Apr 5, 2011 19:09:01 GMT -4
When did Kaysing say that?
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Post by philwebb59 on Apr 9, 2011 10:47:44 GMT -4
Sounds like fodder for a crushing video, hey Luke.
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Post by lukepemberton on Apr 9, 2011 12:43:48 GMT -4
The moonhoax takes about as much crushing as a two year old shelling peas. I'd like to know where this is on record. While I do not agree with Kaysing's views on Apollo, and understand he was welcome to his opinion, I think the record needs to be correct. If anything, in fairness to Kaysing, since he is not here to defend this claim.
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Post by HeadLikeARock (was postbaguk) on Apr 21, 2011 4:46:32 GMT -4
I've never heard of Kaysing actually saying he believed the moon-landings happened.
What he did say however, is that he was asked by a Vietnam vet (who was disillusioned with the US government), to say something outrageous (presumably to discredit the government), such as they never went to the moon. There is a video of it out there in tinterweb world somewhere.
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Post by chrlz on Apr 21, 2011 6:10:38 GMT -4
Fascinating... here's the quote: Interviewer: "So you're working at the rocket place developing, working for the space program. You eventually leave the space program. At that point, did you know that the moon landings were going to be faked. 'Cause you said in 1959 the USA realized they couldn't put a man on the moon, so they started faking stuff. Why didn't you spill the beans right then?" Kaysing: "Well, I don't know. What motivated me to spill the beans was a young man from the Vietnam wars by the name of John Grant. He said that he was sent to Vietnam to kill people with no good reason and he also got a heroin habit, and he says, "Bill," he says, "what I want you to do is blow the whistle on this rotten, corrupt government." He says, "Why don't you say something outrageous, like, we never went to the moon?" So I attribute my interest in this project to John Grant." And the MP3 (10Mb-ish) can be downloaded here.. nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/But be warned - it's long, hard on the ears, and frankly the interviewer is quite moronic (in keeping with his guest).. In that, BK did sound as if he is a genuine hb, yet he raised all the usual and long, long debunked garbage, and also highly praised Ralph Rene as being far better than he, at providing 'evidence'.. Ralph Rene Good Grief, Charlie Brown. Forgive my mirth and incredulity - that wasn't just shooting himself in the foot, that was self-immolation.. That Jarrah White buys into this guy and repeats the absolute tripe he spewed, speaks volumes. (I confess I do suspect that JW stated out as a hb but is now simply trolling, and is semi-trapped in his role.)
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Post by ka9q on Apr 21, 2011 6:23:45 GMT -4
(I confess I do suspect that JW stated out as a hb but is now simply trolling, and is semi-trapped in his role.) Bingo. I think you're right on target. Here's my take. Jarrah has invested an enormous amount of time, energy, and above all, ego in his position. He probably began with a sincere but naive belief, founded in ignorance, that the Apollo landings really were faked. As he got further into the details of Apollo -- and especially as others have patiently explained his errors in great detail -- he must have begun to have second thoughts. But by then it was much too late. He had already committed himself publicly, and there was no turning back. I think his cynical actions (such as abuse of the DMCA) toward his most effective critics belie what's really going on inside his head.
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Post by laurel on Apr 21, 2011 10:48:01 GMT -4
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Post by echnaton on Apr 21, 2011 11:16:07 GMT -4
With a since of humor like that, its little wonder he is both loved and hated. This made me an instant fan.
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Post by chrlz on Apr 22, 2011 3:33:58 GMT -4
Oh, youse canadians..!! Actually, I still found the interview moronic (admittedly I only listened to a bit past half way - did it get any better?), and there wasn't much of a hint that he (the interviewer) had either an opinion either way or any real grasp of the science / physics / basic logic involved (and perhaps the latter is explained by his 'style'), or a desire to be funny, or to find any reality. As the Wiki says: "His interview style can be quite grating and confusing" Yup. There's some more commentary here: www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Bill%20Kaysing.htmI sorta feel sorry for Bill, as I think he was losing his mind as the years went by.
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Post by sts60 on Apr 22, 2011 13:43:56 GMT -4
I sorta feel sorry for Bill, as I think he was losing his mind as the years went by.
I don't feel sorry for him. He peddled rubbish, lied through his teeth about one of the great accomplishments of human history, disparaged hundreds of thousands of dedicated men and women, and freely made up claims of murder the no less loathsome for being absurd.
Good riddance.
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Post by Obviousman on Apr 22, 2011 17:42:36 GMT -4
+ 1.
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Post by rob260259 on May 2, 2011 10:12:56 GMT -4
I sorta feel sorry for Bill, as I think he was losing his mind as the years went by. I don't feel sorry for him. I second that.
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Post by dwight on Jun 12, 2011 10:19:16 GMT -4
So whatever is going on in the world of JW? He is awfully quiet compaed to a few years back. Ever since the Las Vegas and Sydney newspapers handed his backside back to him in a somewhat tanned fashion we just dont get the usual retasting of our breakfast bile from the misunderstood boofhead.
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