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Post by Glom on Jan 26, 2011 16:04:06 GMT -4
From comment 275 from this colourful blog. Good old Tap is quite the fringe monkey. Let's think about this for a moment. The NTSB alleges to have recovered a FDR from an aircraft. Apparently this FDR records the aircraft seemingly flying over the Pentagon and not crashing into it. So from where did the NTSB get the FDR? Did they take it out of the aircraft once it landed at Nellis Air Force Base (where else would it land?)? If it was just a fake, why doesn't it contain plausible fake data? Yet again, these conspiracy theorists can't keep their arguments coherent. If this FDR shows the "real" story, then it could not have entered general circulation by anything other than through the conspiracy, in which case, why does it show the real story. I of course also pointed out that Tapestry needs to learn what QNH is. It might explain the altitude discrepancy.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 26, 2011 16:15:23 GMT -4
PFT have followed CIT into the nightmarish wilderness of the impossible NoC and flyover.
Unfortunately to do so means ignoring well over half the witnesses that claim it was SoC of even SoNA, and all of the witnesses (yes even their own) that say the plane hit the Pentagon. The fact the only way their theory works is for there to have been witnesses about at all.
The entire Blackbox claim has been debunked too, though one does have to still get a giggle from their insisting that the black box found in the wreakage came from a plane that over flew the Pentagon. One of their own resently decoded all of the data (including the final four seconds that the NTSB didn't bother with) and showed that not only was the flightpath SoC but that the plane come low enough to hit the Pentagon. He posted to PFT, for which they banisheded him and now have him defined as Disinfo. Wonderful group of morons.
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Post by Glom on Jan 26, 2011 16:20:30 GMT -4
Ooh. Lots of TLAs I'm not familiar with.
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Post by echnaton on Jan 26, 2011 16:50:50 GMT -4
Ooh. Lots of TLAs I'm not familiar with. wth
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 26, 2011 19:48:56 GMT -4
Ooh. Lots of TLAs I'm not familiar with. PTF - Pilot's for Truth: A bunch of Ijots CIT - Citizen's Investigation for Truth: another bunch of Ijots NoC - North of Citgo: The Ijot idea that flight 77 flew a flight path that was north of the Citgo Gas Station. Claimed by CIT and PFT. Likely the result of target fixation by those north of the real flightpath making it seem closer to them that it was. SoC - The actual flightpart of flight 77: Known by Truthers as "The Offical Story." SoNA - South of Navy Annex: A flightpath that took Flight 77 south of the Naval Annex rather than over it as the Offical flightpath claims. Likely the result of target fixation by those south of the real flightpath making it seem closer to them that it was. Hope that helps.
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Post by captain swoop on Jan 28, 2011 13:31:00 GMT -4
JREF have several endless threads on this, there are only a handful of 'advocates' who go round and round in tiny circles ignoring and sitorting facts to suit their needs.
They are as crazy as the 'No Planers' and 'Energy Weapon' loons
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Post by Jason on Jan 28, 2011 17:56:24 GMT -4
So the idea is that the conspirators publically released the real flight recorder used on the plane that they were setting up to be the Pentagon plane and just didn't think anyone would ever actually look at the data on the recorder?
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Post by Glom on Jan 28, 2011 20:30:38 GMT -4
Just to be clear, the 300ft is the trend from the pressure altimeter, right? At what elevation is the Pentagon?
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Post by echnaton on Jan 29, 2011 0:43:49 GMT -4
My topo map program shows it to be about 35 ft above sea level. The building sits less than a quarter mile from a marina on the Potomac river.
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