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Post by kimchijjigae on Mar 2, 2011 22:13:44 GMT -4
For 300 grams. NASA brought back over 800lbs. Quite a difference there. I'd add it was soil too, not rocks that have thrown up a whole host of science that shows they could have only come from somewhere other than Earth. Let me make this clear to you. I need to have a list of all the samples, their respective weights, and a picture for each of them, and then you have to prove that all of the 800 lbs of rock that was allegedly brought back were tested by quoting the research if they ever mention which samples they are testing.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 2, 2011 22:17:42 GMT -4
Let me make this clear to you. I need to have a list of all the samples, their respective weights, and a picture for each of them, and then you have to prove that all of the 800 lbs of rock that was allegedly brought back were tested by quoting the research if they ever mention which samples they are testing. First of all, why should we do all the work for you? But I'll tell you what. I'll find all of that information for you when you show me proof that NASA used robotic landers to return 800lbs. of moon rocks to Earth. Deal?
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Post by kimchijjigae on Mar 2, 2011 22:19:20 GMT -4
Why would I do that? I don't believe in anything. Furthermore, I bet you can't even prove that more than 5 pounds were tested.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 2, 2011 22:22:23 GMT -4
I don't see why it matters how much was tested. Unless you can prove that probes were used the whole thing is a moot point.
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Post by kimchijjigae on Mar 2, 2011 22:25:31 GMT -4
That's only your personal opinion.
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Post by kimchijjigae on Mar 2, 2011 22:26:41 GMT -4
If you can't prove it and I can't prove it, then basically no one wins except me since all I am saying is that it can't be proven.
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Post by chew on Mar 2, 2011 22:27:22 GMT -4
If you can't prove it and I can't prove it, then basically no one wins except me since all I am saying is that it can't be proven. "Wins" Is that what this is about?
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 2, 2011 22:27:45 GMT -4
No, it's the burden of proof. If you claim that NASA used probes to return the Moon rocks then you must prove it. That's how it works... innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.
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Post by kimchijjigae on Mar 2, 2011 22:28:26 GMT -4
No, it's the burden of proof. If you claim that NASA used probes to return the Moon rocks then you must prove it. That's how it works... innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. I said it was a possibility. I didn't argue it was the case.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 2, 2011 22:30:09 GMT -4
If you can't prove it and I can't prove it, then basically no one wins except me since all I am saying is that it can't be proven. If this is nothing but a pissing match for you then get lost. I'm not interested in winning (I'll leave that to Charlie Sheen). That fact is you haven't proven your case... that's not winning.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 2, 2011 22:31:33 GMT -4
No, it's the burden of proof. If you claim that NASA used probes to return the Moon rocks then you must prove it. That's how it works... innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. I said it was a possibility. I didn't argue it was the case. Then all we're left with is NASAs version of events because you've provided no alternative. So tell me again why I shouldn't believe them.
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Post by kimchijjigae on Mar 2, 2011 22:32:20 GMT -4
I don't have to prove anything because I am not a hoaxer nor a fervent Apollo believer. Since no one ended up proving anything, I win since I only said it can't be proven and no one could really argue against it.
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Post by kimchijjigae on Mar 2, 2011 22:33:01 GMT -4
I said it was a possibility. I didn't argue it was the case. Then we're all we're left with is NASAs version of events because you've provided no alternative. So tell me again why I shouldn't believe them. Blindly believing in someone is stupid, that's why. Why are you using subterfuges now?
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Post by chew on Mar 2, 2011 22:34:16 GMT -4
I don't have to prove anything because I am not a hoaxer nor a fervent Apollo believer. Since no one ended up proving anything, I win since I only said it can't be proven and no one could really argue against it. You've proved nothing except your inability to do your own research.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Mar 2, 2011 22:35:03 GMT -4
I don't have to prove anything because I am not a hoaxer nor a fervent Apollo believer. Since no one ended up proving anything, I win since I only said it can't be proven and no one could really argue against it. Then I guess by that logic I am forced to believe that you are just a figment of my imagination because you can't prove 100% that you exist.
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