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Post by rob260259 on Jun 7, 2011 14:09:57 GMT -4
Awesome... just awesome! Thanks for all your work.
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Post by inconceivable on Jun 8, 2011 23:34:34 GMT -4
Have you been able to do this with the pictures from the surface of the moon with the earth in the background? A lot of HBs still believe that unmanned craft made the trip to the moon and these are just pictures from these crafts.
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Post by philthy on Jun 8, 2011 23:38:15 GMT -4
Have you been able to do this with the pictures from the surface of the moon with the earth in the background? A lot of HBs still believe that unmanned craft made the trip to the moon and these are just pictures from these crafts. Yes, they do make this claim, the trouble with it, is that, there is no other launches that were made at the right time. Just Apollo. There were now other space craft that could have taken these pictures. Phil |
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Post by inconceivable on Jun 8, 2011 23:51:17 GMT -4
Weren't many of these missions releasing satellites from the CSM? I've heard HBs make this statement before.
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Post by gillianren on Jun 9, 2011 0:39:01 GMT -4
I'd never heard that before. It sounds unlikely at best.
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Post by carpediem on Jun 9, 2011 4:08:21 GMT -4
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Post by gillianren on Jun 9, 2011 13:48:14 GMT -4
Ah. But "many" and "satellites," plural?
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Post by Bob B. on Jun 9, 2011 16:21:15 GMT -4
Ah. But "many" and "satellites," plural? Apollo 16 also released a subsatellite. So "satellites" is correct as there where two, but "many" is a stretch. |
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Post by gillianren on Jun 9, 2011 16:55:42 GMT -4
I'm just picturing each mission releasing satellites, plural, which I felt was what was meant by the statement, and that seems awfully crowded. The additional information is interesting, though.
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Post by ka9q on Jun 9, 2011 17:29:37 GMT -4
Weren't many of these missions releasing satellites from the CSM? I've heard HBs make this statement before. Yes, Apollos 15 and 16 released subsatellites shortly before leaving lunar orbit. They transmitted at 128 bits/sec. Not exactly enough to send a lot of high quality images, huh? Not to mention the fact that digital CCD imagers simply didn't exist in 1971-72. Prior to Apollo, the best pictures of the moon came from the Lunar Orbiter series, which exposed conventional photographic film in a camera, developed it on board, and electronically scanned it so the film wouldn't have to be physically returned to earth. As anyone who has seen the LO pictures know, they still left a lot to be desired; there were many characteristic artifacts ranging from the contrast change across each strip to the many imperfections in developing due to a sticking "bimat" layer. The fact that digital cameras didn't exist during the Apollo era really needs to be driven home to the hoaxers. The only way to get truly high quality pictures of the moon, pictures that even come close to modern digital imaging, was to expose a large (60mm x 60mm) piece of photographic film and return it to earth. And the only spacecraft capable of returning significant payloads to earth from the moon was the Apollo command module. |
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Post by threadworm on Jan 3, 2012 15:39:26 GMT -4
Well, it's taken me some time, but I have finally put together what I hope is an accurate and comprehensive survey of all the publicly available satellite images and Apollo images. There are available in this document: www.scribd.com/doc/76882844/Clouds-Across-the-MoonAs part of the process I've revised some of my earlier attempts, but the basic principle is simple: 1 Do the satellite images match the Apollo photographs? 2. Why? The answer is always 'Yes' to the first question, and 'because we went to the moon' for the second. I am exhausted with this now! |
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Post by ka9q on Jan 3, 2012 16:54:46 GMT -4
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2012 20:45:25 GMT -4
Well, it's taken me some time, but I have finally put together what I hope is an accurate and comprehensive survey of all the publicly available satellite images and Apollo images. There are available in this document: www.scribd.com/doc/76882844/Clouds-Across-the-MoonAs part of the process I've revised some of my earlier attempts, but the basic principle is simple: 1 Do the satellite images match the Apollo photographs? 2. Why? The answer is always 'Yes' to the first question, and 'because we went to the moon' for the second. I am exhausted with this now! I have only gone through the Apollo 8 and 10 images currently, it's pretty comprehensive. A few of the images have their arrows in the wrong places, but the images really speak for themselves. Great work. |
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Post by threadworm on Jan 28, 2012 14:28:40 GMT -4
Well, it's taken me some time, but I have finally put together what I hope is an accurate and comprehensive survey of all the publicly available satellite images and Apollo images. There are available in this document: www.scribd.com/doc/76882844/Clouds-Across-the-MoonAs part of the process I've revised some of my earlier attempts, but the basic principle is simple: 1 Do the satellite images match the Apollo photographs? 2. Why? The answer is always 'Yes' to the first question, and 'because we went to the moon' for the second. I am exhausted with this now! I have only gone through the Apollo 8 and 10 images currently, it's pretty comprehensive. A few of the images have their arrows in the wrong places, but the images really speak for themselves. Great work. Damn you! Damn you to hell!  I've just been through and corrected quite a few arrow placements, colours and other little glitches that should have been spotted by my secretary. As soon as I hire one she's fired  |
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Post by forthethrillofital on Feb 2, 2012 18:58:00 GMT -4
Well, it's taken me some time, but I have finally put together what I hope is an accurate and comprehensive survey of all the publicly available satellite images and Apollo images. There are available in this document: www.scribd.com/doc/76882844/Clouds-Across-the-MoonAs part of the process I've revised some of my earlier attempts, but the basic principle is simple: 1 Do the satellite images match the Apollo photographs? 2. Why? The answer is always 'Yes' to the first question, and 'because we went to the moon' for the second. I am exhausted with this now! I have only gone through the Apollo 8 and 10 images currently, it's pretty comprehensive. A few of the images have their arrows in the wrong places, but the images really speak for themselves. Great work. What is to say that the Apollo 8 and 10 images are not courtesy of unmanned probes. That seems quite possible to me. |
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I've just been through and corrected quite a few arrow placements, colours and other little glitches that should have been spotted by my secretary. As soon as I hire one she's fired 