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Post by inconceivable on Jun 29, 2011 13:43:19 GMT -4
I was just curious as to why the EVAs on the moon seem to coinside with high tides and low tides on earth. It seems that they started their EVAs when it was low tide (on Earth) and ended them at high tides. Did anybody ever wonder why? Can somebody extrapolate the location on earth where the times seem to coinside with the lunar EVAs so we can go take a look around.
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Post by gwiz on Jun 29, 2011 14:42:54 GMT -4
I was just curious as to why the EVAs on the moon seem to coinside with high tides and low tides on earth. It seems that they started their EVAs when it was low tide (on Earth) and ended them at high tides. Did anybody ever wonder why? Can somebody extrapolate the location on earth where the times seem to coinside with the lunar EVAs so we can go take a look around. Seeing that it is always high tide somewhere on Earth and low tide somewhere else, this is hardly surprising. Just pick your spot. This only works for the later missions, of course, where the suits were improved to the point where an EVA lasted around half a tide cycle. For the earlier missions, the EVAs were much shorter, so you can't match both ends of an EVA to the same spot on Earth. |
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Post by Jason Thompson on Jun 29, 2011 15:00:23 GMT -4
I wouldn't expect much from this thread if I were you. Inconceivable has a long and reliable track record of throwing these HB-like ideas out and then failing to come back and defend or even further discuss them....
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Post by twik on Jun 29, 2011 15:07:01 GMT -4
I agree that one has to specify *where* the tide is being measured. There is no one "high tide on Earth". So, inconceivable thinks there's a correlation, but hasn't specified what spot on earth he or she is using as the base point?
Now, it might be possible to find some correlation due to geometry between Earth and Moon that would make it most desirable to perform EVAs at a time when the tide was high (or low) at X location. I can't think of any idea off the top of my head why that should be so, but there might be something subtle there.
Perhaps inconceivable can show us the data he or she has gathered on this subject? As it is, I don't see anything of interest to conspiracists or otherwise.
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Post by lukepemberton on Jun 29, 2011 16:19:02 GMT -4
I don't understand the point being made by Inconceivable and how his observation relates to the authenticity of the Apollo missions. Maybe he can elaborate.
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Post by Bob B. on Jun 29, 2011 16:28:13 GMT -4
Did anybody ever wonder why? No. |
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Post by ka9q on Jun 29, 2011 17:04:15 GMT -4
Did they maybe have a preference for one of the three tracking stations (probably Goldstone) such that the earth would always be oriented the same way relative to the moon during each EVA?
Probably not, but I want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Bob B. on Jun 29, 2011 21:33:59 GMT -4
Did they maybe have a preference for one of the three tracking stations (probably Goldstone) such that the earth would always be oriented the same way relative to the moon during each EVA? Probably not, but I want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I wrote a reply suggesting this exact possibility but chose not to post it. |
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Post by ka9q on Jun 30, 2011 2:30:26 GMT -4
So...you're saying I shouldn't have? :-)
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Post by twik on Jun 30, 2011 8:42:47 GMT -4
Yes - *if* there is a correlation between the EVAs and tides at a specific spot, I would expect it would be related to the geometric relationship between the moon and that spot that might, say, give the most direct link from the EVA to the receivers on earth.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what "going to take a look around" would entail.
But since it's an entirely new claim (at least to me), I wish inconceivable would expand on what he thinks the correlation might be.
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Post by Ian Pearse on Jun 30, 2011 12:12:47 GMT -4
I've read inconceivable's post a few times now, and I can't get past the "whaaa?" reaction. What on Earth (or the Moon) is he on about? Come on, inconceivable, please explain the background to this odd query.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jun 30, 2011 19:03:06 GMT -4
Didja know that every single event in every single Apollo mission happened at local noon or local midnight, Earth time?
That's a statement that's just as meaningful as inconceivable's post. It's always local noon somewhere on Earth, and local midnight at the antipodes.
Fred
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Post by Mr Gorsky on Jul 1, 2011 6:28:41 GMT -4
Didja know that every single event in every single Apollo mission happened at local noon or local midnight, Earth time? Except for the liftoff of Apollo 11 which was 32 minutes past and, as 32 in binary is 100000 it is clearly the work of a whistle blower. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 1, 2011 7:52:56 GMT -4
Somehow, we can work Hoagland's tetrahedral angle (or whatever it is) into this too...
Fred
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Post by ka9q on Jul 2, 2011 7:45:36 GMT -4
Everything in Apollo is the work of a whistleblower.
According to some people.
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