Post by Kiwi on Oct 19, 2011 23:27:09 GMT -4
There is always something new to learn about Apollo.
First Man: The Life of Neil A. Armstrong, James R. Hansen, Simon & Schuster, New York, 2005, page 699, note 410:
I had never heard of this until yesterday, and didn't previously notice the gap when I amalgamated all three Apollo 11 transcripts into one and had my word-processor change things like "CMP[Tab]" to "Collins (on-board): " and "03 03 39 38" to "75:39:38".
The gap is not explained or mentioned in the introduction to the onboard transcript and just jumps from day 1 on page 51 to day 4 on page 52:--
www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/a11trans.html
The Apollo 11 Flight Journal, Day 4, part 1: Entering Lunar Orbit,
history.nasa.gov/afj/
says just before 75:40:17:
So the AFJ doesn't say anything about recordings being erased and just implies that the recorder had not been turned on. But imagine the madcap meal some HB's will be able to make of the gap when they get hold of it! They'll probably claim there are no voice recordings for three days and would be wrong about that -- it's just the onboard stuff that is missing. The air-to-ground and Public Affairs Officers' transcripts come to about 80 pages of Arial 10-point during the gap in the onboard transcript.
Hey! This post shows that we Apollo-believers aren't afraid of either Apollo facts or faults.
Edited to add links
First Man: The Life of Neil A. Armstrong, James R. Hansen, Simon & Schuster, New York, 2005, page 699, note 410:
...Regrettably, there is a major gap in the onboard voice recording. All voice data between 00:03:29:21 and 03:03:39:38 -- three days, ten minutes, and seventeen seconds' worth -- was somehow erased during the flight, so there is no record of what the astronauts said to one another during this lengthy period of time...
I had never heard of this until yesterday, and didn't previously notice the gap when I amalgamated all three Apollo 11 transcripts into one and had my word-processor change things like "CMP[Tab]" to "Collins (on-board): " and "03 03 39 38" to "75:39:38".
The gap is not explained or mentioned in the introduction to the onboard transcript and just jumps from day 1 on page 51 to day 4 on page 52:--
www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/a11trans.html
Page 51 — Day 1
00 03 28 18 -*- LMP -*- Well, I'm trying to - -
00 03 28 19 -*- CDR -*- You're at the high gain - -
00 03 28 20 -*- LMP -*- - - you're at postdocking; I'm trying to get the high gain going - and I'm having a little trouble - ... trouble.
00 03 28 29 -*- CDR -*- That's MANUAL -
00 03 28 33 -*- CMP -*- Whatever you do, take some pictures.
<SNIP>
00 03 28 58 -*- CDR -*- We got signal strength.
00 03 29 00 -*- CMP -*- Okay. You have to really be on MANUAL for those things to be indicating correctly.
00 03 29 05 -*- CDR -*- He was but - -
00 03 29 06 -*- CMP -*- Okay.
00 03 29 07 -*- CDR -*- - - this one was just kind of wandering around there - with no - -
00 03 29 13 -*- LMP -*- As soon as I went down to HIGH GAIN was when the signal strength came up.
00 03 29 16 -*- CMP -*- Okay, ... man.
00 03 29 21 -*- CC -*- Apollo 11 - -
Page 52 — Day 4
03 03 39 38 -*- CC -*- ...
03 03 40 17 -*- CMP -*- Optics ... are up?
03 03 40 19 -*- CDR -*- Yes.
03 03 40 25 -*- LMP -*- Okay, 41:23; I minute to LOS. Mark that.
03 03 40 33 -*- CC -*- Apollo 11, this is Houston. ...
03 03 40 40 -*- CDR -*- Roger. Everything looks okay up here.
03 03 40 48 -*- LMP -*- How much time have we got, Mike?
03 03 40 51 -*- CMP -*- 9 minutes.
03 03 41 13 -*- LMP -*- Well, let's let them look at the main bus ties coming on, alright?
03 03 41 17 -*- CMP -*- Sure...
00 03 28 18 -*- LMP -*- Well, I'm trying to - -
00 03 28 19 -*- CDR -*- You're at the high gain - -
00 03 28 20 -*- LMP -*- - - you're at postdocking; I'm trying to get the high gain going - and I'm having a little trouble - ... trouble.
00 03 28 29 -*- CDR -*- That's MANUAL -
00 03 28 33 -*- CMP -*- Whatever you do, take some pictures.
<SNIP>
00 03 28 58 -*- CDR -*- We got signal strength.
00 03 29 00 -*- CMP -*- Okay. You have to really be on MANUAL for those things to be indicating correctly.
00 03 29 05 -*- CDR -*- He was but - -
00 03 29 06 -*- CMP -*- Okay.
00 03 29 07 -*- CDR -*- - - this one was just kind of wandering around there - with no - -
00 03 29 13 -*- LMP -*- As soon as I went down to HIGH GAIN was when the signal strength came up.
00 03 29 16 -*- CMP -*- Okay, ... man.
00 03 29 21 -*- CC -*- Apollo 11 - -
Page 52 — Day 4
03 03 39 38 -*- CC -*- ...
03 03 40 17 -*- CMP -*- Optics ... are up?
03 03 40 19 -*- CDR -*- Yes.
03 03 40 25 -*- LMP -*- Okay, 41:23; I minute to LOS. Mark that.
03 03 40 33 -*- CC -*- Apollo 11, this is Houston. ...
03 03 40 40 -*- CDR -*- Roger. Everything looks okay up here.
03 03 40 48 -*- LMP -*- How much time have we got, Mike?
03 03 40 51 -*- CMP -*- 9 minutes.
03 03 41 13 -*- LMP -*- Well, let's let them look at the main bus ties coming on, alright?
03 03 41 17 -*- CMP -*- Sure...
The Apollo 11 Flight Journal, Day 4, part 1: Entering Lunar Orbit,
history.nasa.gov/afj/
says just before 75:40:17:
On board Columbia, the DSE recorder is started. Its voice track of the crew's conversations around the Moon's far side, along with a range of telemetry readings, will be radioed to Earth later, allowing historians to follow Apollo 11's insertion into lunar orbit.
So the AFJ doesn't say anything about recordings being erased and just implies that the recorder had not been turned on. But imagine the madcap meal some HB's will be able to make of the gap when they get hold of it! They'll probably claim there are no voice recordings for three days and would be wrong about that -- it's just the onboard stuff that is missing. The air-to-ground and Public Affairs Officers' transcripts come to about 80 pages of Arial 10-point during the gap in the onboard transcript.
Hey! This post shows that we Apollo-believers aren't afraid of either Apollo facts or faults.
Edited to add links