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Post by damnsod on Dec 16, 2011 20:57:14 GMT -4
I may be wrong, but wasn't the SDI proposed by Ronald Reagan in 1983? 11 years after the last Apollo Moon mission?
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Post by laurel on Dec 16, 2011 20:59:33 GMT -4
"Wernher."
Would you care to offer any proof that the SDI was related to Apollo?
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Post by AtomicDog on Dec 16, 2011 21:00:19 GMT -4
I may be wrong, but wasn't the SDI proposed by Ronald Reagan in 1983? 11 years after the last Apollo Moon mission? Wasn't The Nasa Space Programme Proposed By Werhner Von Braun... A Nazi Decorated War Hero, Poached By Project Paperclip... Post WW2 And? How is this evidence of a hoax? |
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Post by damnsod on Dec 16, 2011 21:17:47 GMT -4
One Of The Things This Leads Me To Beleive,
Is That The Human Race Being Great Colonists,
And All That...
The Americans Being The Worlds Pimp Will Stick Their Flag Anywhere..
The Moon, Iwa Jima, 9/11 etc..
If They Had Really Got To The Moon,
It Would Have Been The Start Of Colonization...
This Makes Me Think That Maybe, We Are A Bit Alone In The Universe...
Because If There Was Others, We Would Know By Now...!!!
And It Really Gives A Lot Of Credance To The Quantum Universe Being A Product Of The Observer...!!!
And Being The Schrodingers Cat That Got Out...
It Looks A Little Bit Fuzzy To Me...!!!
Any civilization with advanced rocket technology would be able to colonize the entire
galaxy on a cosmically short timescale.
For example, consider a civilization that
sends colonists to a few of the planetary systems closest to it.
After those colonies
have established themselves, they send out secondary colonies of their own, and
so on.
The number of colonies grows exponentially.
A colonization wave front
will move outward with a speed determined by the speed of the starships and by
the time required by each colony to establish itself.
New settlements will quickly
fill in the volume of space behind this wave front.
Assuming a typical colony spacing of 10 light-years, a ship speed of 10 percent
that of light, and a period of 400 years between the foundation of a colony and its
sending out colonies of its own, the colonization wave front will expand at an
average speed of 0.02 light-year a year.
As the galaxy is 100,000 light-years
across, it takes no more than about five million years to colonize it completely.
Though a long time in human terms, this is only 0.05 percent of the age of the
galaxy.
Compared with the other relevant astronomical and biological timescales,
it is essentially instantaneous.
The greatest uncertainty is the time required for a
colony to establish itself and spawn new settlements.
A reasonable upper limit
might be 5,000 years, the time it has taken human civilization to develop from the
earliest cities to spaceflight.
In that case, full galactic colonization would take
about 50 million years.
Where Are The Probes,
Where Is The Invasion Force,
Where Are The Galactic Ashtar Command...
Oh Hang On, We Really Are A Goldilocks Planet...!!! 
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Post by damnsod on Dec 16, 2011 21:25:54 GMT -4
Wasn't The Nasa Space Programme Proposed By Werhner Von Braun... A Nazi Decorated War Hero, Poached By Project Paperclip... Post WW2 And? How is this evidence of a hoax?
But Circumstancial Evidence That Von Braun Could Go Ballistic... But Not Beyond That...!!!
On October 3, 1942 the A-4 was first launched from Peenemunde.
Breaking the sound barrier, it reached an altitude of sixty miles.
It was the world's first launch of a ballistic missile and the first rocket ever to go into the fringes of space. |
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Post by raven on Dec 16, 2011 21:50:17 GMT -4
How? How is that circumstantial evidence of anything related to anything to do with an alleged moon hoax.
That's like saying since the Model T had a top speed of about 72 km/h, any car claiming to go faster must be some kind of hoax.
Technology changes, it advances, thanks to research and development, thanks to the truly massive funding rocketry received in the United States post World War II.
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Post by damnsod on Dec 16, 2011 21:53:31 GMT -4
This Interests Me,
Manipulation Of The Senses...Fascinating, When You Think That Glamour Was Originally A Witches Spell...!!!
A glamour was originally said to be a spell cast by a witch to make somebody see things in a different way 
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Post by AtomicDog on Dec 16, 2011 21:57:38 GMT -4
And? How is this evidence of a hoax? Not Evidence Of A Hoax, But Circumstancial Evidence That Von Braun Could Go Ballistic... But Not Beyond That...!!! On October 3, 1942 the A-4 was first launched from Peenemunde.
Breaking the sound barrier, it reached an altitude of sixty miles.
It was the world's first launch of a ballistic missile and the first rocket ever to go into the fringes of space.]
So a rocket scientist does rocket science. Why are you seemingly amazed? |
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Post by damnsod on Dec 16, 2011 22:06:24 GMT -4
Not Evidence Of A Hoax, But Circumstancial Evidence That Von Braun Could Go Ballistic... But Not Beyond That...!!! On October 3, 1942 the A-4 was first launched from Peenemunde.
Breaking the sound barrier, it reached an altitude of sixty miles.
It was the world's first launch of a ballistic missile and the first rocket ever to go into the fringes of space.]
So a rocket scientist does rocket science. Why are you seemingly amazed?
Guy Morand, a French resistance fighter who was a prisoner in Dora, testified in 1995 that after an apparent sabotage attempt:
Without even listening to my explanations, [von Braun] ordered the Meister to have me given 25 strokes...
Then, judging that the strokes weren't sufficiently hard, he ordered I be flogged more vigorously...von Braun made me translate that I deserved much more, that in fact I deserved to be hanged...
I would say his cruelty, of which I was personally a victim, are, I would say, an eloquent testimony to his Nazi fanaticism
Biddle, Wayne. Dark Side of the Moon
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Post by AtomicDog on Dec 16, 2011 22:09:23 GMT -4
So a rocket scientist does rocket science. Why are you seemingly amazed? Braun engaged in brutal treatment or approved of it. Guy Morand, a French resistance fighter who was a prisoner in Dora, testified in 1995 that after an apparent sabotage attempt: Without even listening to my explanations, [von Braun] ordered the Meister to have me given 25 strokes... Then, judging that the strokes weren't sufficiently hard, he ordered I be flogged more vigorously...von Braun made me translate that I deserved much more, that in fact I deserved to be hanged... I would say his cruelty, of which I was personally a victim, are, I would say, an eloquent testimony to his Nazi fanaticism Biddle, Wayne. Dark Side of the Moonwww.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/books/review/Holloway-t.htmlWhich answers my question not a bit. |
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Post by nomuse on Dec 16, 2011 22:16:12 GMT -4
Again What's With This Imperialist Analogy... Forest, over there ------> Don't get confused by the first tree. |
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Post by nomuse on Dec 16, 2011 22:18:28 GMT -4
On The Contrary, I Am Enjoying The Delusions Of Intellectual Superiority On Here, No Peer Review eh...!!! Don't You Find That A Little Bit...Um...Uncomfortable... Do you have anything to actually say about Apollo? Or are you here to make social commentary? He's here to pose. And show off his unequaled mastery of HTML tags. |
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Post by raven on Dec 16, 2011 22:20:41 GMT -4
We are not saying Von Braun isn't a controversial figure. But again, for the purposes of a the question of a hoax, why does any of that matter? Von Braun was actually arrested by the Gestapo when he made it known that his dream was space travel. www.v2rocket.com/start/chapters/vonbraun.htmlThe things he was willing to do to attain that goal can be considered unethical and immoral, but it is not evidence he did not succeed on at least part of his dream, sending men to the moon. |
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Post by damnsod on Dec 16, 2011 22:22:19 GMT -4
Braun engaged in brutal treatment or approved of it. Guy Morand, a French resistance fighter who was a prisoner in Dora, testified in 1995 that after an apparent sabotage attempt: Without even listening to my explanations, [von Braun] ordered the Meister to have me given 25 strokes... Then, judging that the strokes weren't sufficiently hard, he ordered I be flogged more vigorously...von Braun made me translate that I deserved much more, that in fact I deserved to be hanged... I would say his cruelty, of which I was personally a victim, are, I would say, an eloquent testimony to his Nazi fanaticism Biddle, Wayne. Dark Side of the Moonwww.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/books/review/Holloway-t.htmlWhich answers my question not a bit.
There Is No Evidence He Got Further Than, Oh I Dunno, The Stratosphere...!!! |
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Post by damnsod on Dec 16, 2011 22:25:17 GMT -4
How? How is that circumstantial evidence of anything related to anything to do with an alleged moon hoax. That's like saying since the Model T had a top speed of about 72 km/h, any car claiming to go faster must be some kind of hoax. Technology changes, it advances, thanks to research and development, thanks to the truly massive funding rocketry received in the United States post World War II.
They Are Jeremy Clarkson Cringeworthy...
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