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Post by echnaton on May 22, 2008 9:27:57 GMT -4
Wow, the Dead Kennedys. I was a teen when punk started, but because I had already been listening to Iggy, Pop and the New York Dolls, I didn't know what most of the fuss was about. I did understand its intent and attitude I think - sort of a Dadaist swipe at what rock'n roll had become: bloated, pretentious and run by money men. I did listen to the Sex Pistols, the Clash, Ian Drury and a few others. Before Punk, there were some major artists with serious attitude: Neil Young (Tonights the Night, Zuma), The Who (Live at Leeds), The Velvet Underground (esp. Lou Reed) , Captain Beefheart and others. The first punk album in my opinion was the Velvet Underground's White Light/White Heat. More primitive than any Sex Pistol tunes, but of course no one heard of the Velvet Underground till the eighties (except musicians of course). ;D I'll do a web search on the others and let you know what I think of them. I wasn't a really big punk fan at the time because I was exploring classical and minimalist music more while in college. While simultaneously running away from the rotting leftovers of disco as fast as I could. But how could anyone not appreciate those great Sex Pistols songs. For me there albums are hit and miss. A few great ones hidden between more unmemorable tracks. Maybe I just didn't listen enough understand the subtly of the Sex Pistols I bought the few records I have while the punk period was waining. The only major punk band I saw live was the Ramones. My friends and I listened to the Velvet Underground while in high school in the seventies. we all knew Lou Reed from his solo hits with Rock and Roll and Sweet Jane. I didn't buy any VU albums because my friends had most of them. I can't identify any song by Capitan Beefheart. All I know about him is that he was an associate of Frank Zappa. Several of my friends were real Zappa fans, particularly the ones who played music. I enjoyed some of his music but he always seemed a little silly to me. Like he was simultaneously serious and sarcastic and couldn't make up his mind about which he wanted to be. He made some remarkable songs with humorous content and excellent musicianship.
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Post by dinsmore on May 22, 2008 12:34:11 GMT -4
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Post by Ginnie on May 22, 2008 17:23:04 GMT -4
Doctors of Madness? I thought I was the only one who bought their album. I had their first one, around 1975 I guess. I haven't been able to find anything on CD. There was one song, I think it was called "Mainlines" or something like that, that I loved. Crazy violin. I looked it up and the album was called "Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms". I'd love to get that album again. I've never met anybody who ever heard of that group! Krautrock: I don't know if these bands qualify, but I used to have an album by CAN , Tangerine Dream and Van Der Graaf Generator (sort of a German Pink Floyd). VDGG had a great album called New World. Oh, there is so much music in the world. And so much I haven't heard.
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Post by dinsmore on May 23, 2008 12:07:44 GMT -4
VDGG were actually British, but Can and TD were definitely Krautrock. They could both vary enormously between albums though, anywhere from chill out music to ear splitting noise. For example, TD's first album, Electronic Meditation (1970) is mainly Edgar Froese playing very loud guitar indeed, Klaus Schulze pounding drums, and some other people making spooky flute, cello, violin and organ sounds. There's loads of feedback, the track Journey Through A Burning Brain being the loudest overall. I think most TD fans who enjoy the easy listening sequencer and mellotron stuff would probably explode if made to listen to this, but anyone who likes Raw Power should be able to take it. There's the same approach Bowie took to mixing the guitar to blast it's way through all else like a death ray. The Bathtub Session (1969) gives the faintest idea, but the album's miles better in terms of musical structure, sound and energy. Can's Delay 1968 is another rough punky guitar churning album, with a similar sort of sound all the way through. For example, Butterfly, once you get past the strange noise someone's spliced on to the clip before the guitar starts up.
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Post by Al Johnston on May 23, 2008 13:46:35 GMT -4
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Post by Ginnie on May 23, 2008 16:23:38 GMT -4
, but anyone who likes Raw Power should be able to take it. There's the same approach Bowie took to mixing the guitar to blast it's way through all else like a death ray
Ha ha. Bowie has taken so much criticism over the years for his production of Raw Power. Supposedly though, the sound was worse originally and he cleaned it up a bit. I really like the primitive sound of Raw Power, it matches the tunes brilliantly. Search and Destroy has to be one of the raunchiest sounding songs ever - what a wall of noise! I hope Iggy is finally making some money...
Years ago, before the Stooges were anybody they had a chance to play at a well known nightclub in L.A., and many music execs and musicians would be in the audience. His coke dealer didn't show up, Iggy panicked, and went to the audience to score some coke. Well, I guess lots of people had some. Iggy went on stage, the band burst into its opening number and then Iggy dropped forward to the floor like a brick, overdosed. His manager said it was the best performance he ever gave.
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Post by dinsmore on May 25, 2008 9:00:54 GMT -4
LOL @ das Hoki-Koki but I could imagine Kraftwerk doing that in all seriousness. As with TD, there was a time long ago when Kraftwerk didn't have any synthesizers either... Ruckzuck (1970)
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Post by lenbrazil on Feb 7, 2009 21:42:54 GMT -4
Here's my top ten that (almost) nobody has ever heard : Stackridge - Stackridge Sensational Alex Harvey Band - NextDoctors of Madness - Doctors of Madness Screaming Trees - Screaming Trees Townes Van Zandt - Live in Berlin Tripping Daisy - I am An Elastic Firecracker David Bowie - Live at Santa Monica 1972 54-40 - Sweeter Things The Velvet Underground and Nico Nico - Chelsea Girl Cheetah Chrome from the seminal proto-Punk/Punk bands Rocket From The Tombs (1974-5) and the Dead Boys (1975-9) has cited the Sensational Alex Harvey Band on several occasions as one of his favorite bands/major influences/what he was then listening to (in 2002). I have a few friends from your generation who cite them as one of their favorites. Perhaps it was one of you had have been around at the time, I like´m but would never count them as one of my favorites.
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Post by Ginnie on Feb 7, 2009 22:42:56 GMT -4
Here's my top ten that (almost) nobody has ever heard : Stackridge - Stackridge Sensational Alex Harvey Band - NextDoctors of Madness - Doctors of Madness Screaming Trees - Screaming Trees Townes Van Zandt - Live in Berlin Tripping Daisy - I am An Elastic Firecracker David Bowie - Live at Santa Monica 1972 54-40 - Sweeter Things The Velvet Underground and Nico Nico - Chelsea Girl Cheetah Chrome from the seminal proto-Punk/Punk bands Rocket From The Tombs (1974-5) and the Dead Boys (1975-9) has cited the Sensational Alex Harvey Band on several occasions as one of his favorite bands/major influences/what he was then listening to (in 2002). I have a few friends from your generation who cite them as one of their favorites. Perhaps it was one of you had have been around at the time, I like´m but would never count them as one of my favorites. I'm a HUGE Sensational Alex Harvey Band fan. I belong to their official forum where there are great people and I've been having a wonderful time.
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Post by gillianren on Feb 8, 2009 16:47:26 GMT -4
For the interested, there's a song written/performed by They Might Be Giants in Coraline.
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Post by Jason on Feb 8, 2009 18:06:58 GMT -4
Something new, I presume?
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Post by Kiwi on Feb 9, 2010 7:24:42 GMT -4
...What albums have you heard in your life that are 'perfect' albums. That is, an Album (or CD nowadays) from an artist that have no filler or mediocre tracks on it.? The rarity where all the songs are either very good to excellent. On top of my list in reply 55, just last week I bought a ten-year-old CD second hand for only $6.90 and so far it gets that perfect score, although there's one track I need to listen to a few times to see if it should stay a '4' or go down to '3.' It is the soundtrack to the oddball, fun, Coen Brothers movie of 2000, O Brother, Where Art Thou? I saw it on TV and when I saw the CD remembered that although I hadn't paid full attention to the movie, some of the music was impressive. And it certainly is. There are 19 tracks lasting a total of 1:00:32, and three tracks are original recordings from 1928, 1955 and 1959. Another four are different versions of I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow, two vocal and two instrumental, and another two tracks are a cappella. The CD comes with an informative book and there is a mixture of 1930s-style gospel, folk (mainly bluegrass style) and country & western, and a variety of moods from funereal though to fun and lively. It's all different, quality stuff done by good musos and singers who can sing. Emmylou Harris would be the best-known, on one track only. And yep, George Clooney lip-synched his part to a real singer, but Tim Blake Nelson sings on one track.
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Post by Ginnie on May 31, 2010 21:08:36 GMT -4
Hm, music. I wouldn't know where to start. How about 1964?
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Post by laurel on May 31, 2010 21:52:04 GMT -4
Emmylou Harris would be the best-known, on one track only. I love her. I really like the CD All The Roadrunning that she recorded with Mark Knopfler.
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Post by Ginnie on May 31, 2010 22:06:48 GMT -4
...What albums have you heard in your life that are 'perfect' albums. That is, an Album (or CD nowadays) from an artist that have no filler or mediocre tracks on it.? The rarity where all the songs are either very good to excellent. On top of my list in reply 55, just last week I bought a ten-year-old CD second hand for only $6.90 and so far it gets that perfect score, although there's one track I need to listen to a few times to see if it should stay a '4' or go down to '3.' It is the soundtrack to the oddball, fun, Coen Brothers movie of 2000, O Brother, Where Art Thou? I saw it on TV and when I saw the CD remembered that although I hadn't paid full attention to the movie, some of the music was impressive. And it certainly is. There are 19 tracks lasting a total of 1:00:32, and three tracks are original recordings from 1928, 1955 and 1959. Another four are different versions of I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow, two vocal and two instrumental, and another two tracks are a cappella. The CD comes with an informative book and there is a mixture of 1930s-style gospel, folk (mainly bluegrass style) and country & western, and a variety of moods from funereal though to fun and lively. It's all different, quality stuff done by good musos and singers who can sing. Emmylou Harris would be the best-known, on one track only. And yep, George Clooney lip-synched his part to a real singer, but Tim Blake Nelson sings on one track. Ya know, I'm very much a rock'n roll person but I love listening to "Big Rock Candy Mountain" from that CD.
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