Swearing an oath on the Bible.

I thought that was the case, but didn't have time to check the ALSJ. Besides, I have the CD-ROM version, so the answers may not have been there and I may have needed to check the online version.

You have a very good point. I have often tried to persuade hoax-believers to simply read the very first part of the ALSJ, Eagle's descent from orbit to the lunar surface, and get to understand most of it, because I feel that many of them wouldn't have a clue about the technicalities involved. Just reading that part alone makes me wonder, "Who the hell would want to hoax all this stuff?" When I got to understand all of it, it didn't sound like a hoax at all. It sounded like the real thing. In any case, having listened to the powered descent and landing live on the radio, and having followed everything since Sputnik 1, I never believed it was a hoax anyway.

Another thing is, that if they don't read that part of the ALSJ, hoax-believers should at least study Mercury, Gemini and early Apollo closely, and it wouldn't hurt to study Ranger and Surveyor too -- how everything proceeded by logical steps, learning, improving, making mistakes and correcting them along the way.

Regarding education. I left school at 15 and only have School Certificate. I still believe that 80% of high school was a waste of time, and am certainly not well-educated. Now I'm also a full-time invalid and close to the bottom of the socio-economic heap. Although I can't come near some of our resident experts, I too can make a useful point about Apollo at times. Heaven forbid, I've even earned a brief spell or two wearing the "I Corrected JayUtah" teeshirt.

And for many years I have claimed that the best debates are those I lose. Why? Because if I lose I can't fail to learn something. My ego never liked losing (I'm using the layman's term here), but one advantage of becoming an old fart is that it's possible to eventually get the damned useless thing to have less and less effect. It's wonderful to not have my ego ruling my life. Things that once bothered me are no trouble at all now.

Nitpick: I've seen you do it before, so:
Accent = what a Scotsman, a Texan or Queen Elizabeth has to a Kiwi's ear.
Decent = polite, respectable, proper, suitable.
You want "descent" and "ascent."
Ralph Rene makes the same mistake, and you wouldn't want to stay in his league, would you now?

I have to agree with Count Zero on this one. That quiz was overly harsh. I didn't know any of them. I imagined helium was the likely answer to the first one. I knew about Snoopy but I didn't realise it was attached to any missions aside from Apollo 10. Of course, I hadn't read the Apollo 11 SJ so I didn't know. I understand the point was to demonstrate he hadn't read ALSJ, which is a requisite for anyone who wants to make such audacious claims, but I think a slightly more generic quiz would have also proven the point while not being so obnoxious in its obscurity.

Oh yeah and Bart Sibrel is a conniving little sh*t, who demonstrates ignorance at every turn. I believe the Dark Lord Kaysing is sincere, if obstinate in his old age, in what he says, but Bart Sibrel's behaviour leads me to the conclusion that he is more likely a snake oil salesman selling lies for a bit of notoriety (I'm not going to resort to the money thing because I don't know how lucrative his business is and I don't want to regurgitate the whole left wing crap that pounds and dollars are the only forms of wealth that drives the greed of people).

Did he? What was the conspiracist reaction?

I haven't seen or heard much conspiracist reaction. Here is a BABB thread about his death:

www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=22541

So sad, especially with his crusade unfinished

I'm just curious, has anyone tried blaming his death on NASA, the CIA, etc.?

[/quote]It does. How many astronauts were prepared to swear on the Bible that they had been to the moon?......[/quote]

So margamatix, you think it matters that a man wants to have men swear on the bible that they are not liars and part of a vast conspiracy? It does not matter that there is no evidence that they hoaxed the moon landing?

Tell me how you would feel if I sandbagged you into swearing on a bible that you were not a pedophile. Insulting? Yes of course. Would it make you mad? I'm sure it would. Would I be immoral to do such a thing to you? Oh yes I would. Why have you not considered that Sibrel is an immoral bastard the way he stalks people?

Ranb