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Post by jaydeehess on Jul 14, 2006 0:01:09 GMT -4
Argument #1 – NASA (or other Evil Government Agencies) kill off those that attempt to expose the hoax Argument #2 – The HBs are still alive to write, make videos and post websites proclaiming that Apollo is a hoax Contradiction – If the Evil Government kills people that "blow the whistle", then no HBs should be left to proclaim their beliefs. So many people to kill, so little time.................. Obviously TPTB simply haven't gotten around to Kaysing and White yet but sooner or later they will suffer a " heart attack" or " cancer", perhaps even an " accident" such as airplane wing " icing", then you'll see the truth. |
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Post by hplasm on Jul 14, 2006 5:20:26 GMT -4
Gromit only has one M. ;P My God! You're right. Oh the shame....  |
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Post by Mr Gorsky on Jul 14, 2006 8:01:25 GMT -4
Obviously TPTB simply haven't gotten around to Kaysing and White yet ... Well, Mother Nature beat TPTB to Bill Kaysing, who died in April 2005 after suffering complications from Angioplasty, and Jack White is so far out of his tree, I assume that they are leaving him alone so that he and his supporters can continue down their own merry road away from the truth.  |
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Post by HeadLikeARock (was postbaguk) on Aug 17, 2006 5:29:20 GMT -4
Cosmic Dave:- 1. The lunar soil looks wet! 2. A mission to the moon to find water??? So I was right, the soil WAS wet! I still shudder when trying to get my head round this particular logical fallacy...  |
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Post by jaydeehess on Aug 17, 2006 12:50:25 GMT -4
Obviously TPTB simply haven't gotten around to Kaysing and White yet ... Well, Mother Nature beat TPTB to Bill Kaysing, who died in April 2005 after suffering complications from Angioplasty, and Jack White is so far out of his tree, I assume that they are leaving him alone so that he and his supporters can continue down their own merry road away from the truth. Shows how much attention I pay to HB's I suppose. Substitute Percy and Bennett for Kaysing then. ;D re: wet soil and falling dust I had an arguement with an HB that claimed that Bennet and Percy showed the dust fell too quickly. The only mention of it that I could find, is in the caption of one picture in "Dark Moon". I showed the math that illustrates that dust will actually fall faster on the Moon due to no interfering air resistance, than it will on Earth despite the higher gravity. I challenged her to show me the passage in "Dark Moon" where she claims that B & P make a big deal about the dust fall rate. She could not supply one(it doesn't exist). She claimed I was using "gov't" or "NASA" data to do my calculations. I showed that I was using formulae that had been around for centuries. Despite all this she still contends that the dust doesn't fall as it should on the Moon.  |
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Post by gillianren on Aug 25, 2006 20:24:29 GMT -4
marketing and promotion and salesmanship Oh, my . . . . |
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Post by Count Zero on Aug 26, 2006 14:13:06 GMT -4
Hi Gillian! Nice to see you over here. Enjoy . . .
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Post by PeterB on Aug 31, 2006 3:42:12 GMT -4
Well, Co(s)mic Dave's latest pair of assertions is that only the senior people at NASA knew about the hoax, and that all the engineers were kept silent by means of the Official Secrets Act. I'm curious to see how he resolves that one.
Perhaps he thinks that signing on to the act meant the engineers forgot what they knew about the hoax...
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Post by gwiz on Sept 7, 2006 4:44:22 GMT -4
Jack White has now applied the "LM couldn't fly because it was held together with tape" argument to the CSM as well. If the CSM couldn't fly, how were astronauts filming from one in Bart Sibrel's film? Can we have a debate between White and Sibrel on this matter?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 7, 2006 17:02:03 GMT -4
Well Kaysing claimed that they were never launched on the Saturn V, that the rocket went up empty. This is the thing about the Apollo Hoax, you can take bits from several different authors because none of them have a internally consistant story, just a bunch of "But that doesn't look rights"
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Post by Data Cable on Sept 7, 2006 18:01:15 GMT -4
Well Kaysing claimed that they were never launched on the Saturn V, that the rocket went up empty. Oh please... did he then ever even bother to address the continuous footage ( > 30 sec.) of Apollo astronauts clearly in micro-G? Or were they just sent up on some other super-secret non-Saturn-V launch? |
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Post by nomuse on Sept 7, 2006 18:59:44 GMT -4
The Saturn V's flight profile is starting to resemble Planet X's orbit.....
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Post by gwiz on Sept 8, 2006 3:47:55 GMT -4
Not a major one, but it just occured to me:
Claim: The Soviets were far ahead of the US in spaceflight capability.
Claim: The Apollo laser reflectors were deployed by unmanned probes.
So how come the first Apollo reflector was deployed over a year before the Soviets managed theirs?
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Post by gezalenko on Sept 8, 2006 7:54:41 GMT -4
Argument #1 - NASA were willing and able to produce fake photos of the moon landings
Argument #2 - the absence of remote photos of Apollo equipment on the moon (eg from Hubble or observatories on Earth) is proof that Apollo was faked.
Contradiction - if NASA were able to produce fake photos, why not simply fake some "Hubble" photos or similar ?
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Post by orumdude on Sept 9, 2006 8:43:42 GMT -4
Or the even more inherent and baffling: 1. NASA's colossal budget and unbridled skill allowed them to do whatever was necessary to create a convincing hoax. 2. NASA wasn't able to do what it takes to get to the moon. They couldn't eat their own heads either. |
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