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Post by ouloncollouphid on Sept 7, 2005 18:42:22 GMT -4
Ah yes, the famous "half-time football score" Did you know that, when street corner bookmakers took bets on the seemingly random last four numbers of the Dow Jones index, that the Mafia arranged, on the 4th of July, that this number would end in "1776"? So if a handful of dodgy Italians could do that, what limits could there be to the US Government's powers of flim-flammery? God almighty, aren't you embarrassed at being such a gullible, credulous turnip? Have some shame, man.
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Post by PeterB on Sept 7, 2005 22:20:15 GMT -4
Here are the news reports I’ve been able to find. If the missions were faked beforehand, then the matters referred to in the news had to be organised beforehand. In many cases of these news reports, the arrangements had to be made with foreign countries (including the USSR).
Read and enjoy.
Apollo 12:
027:57:59 Weitz: World attention is on the Flight of Apollo 12. The Soviet Union held the crew as courageous; and Tass, the official Soviet news agency, reported the start of the mission and a brief factual report in both of its Russian and foreign language reports. Czechoslovak television carried a live coverage of the lift-off, complete with an explanation of technical details. In West Germany, all radio and television networks carried the launch live, as did the Japanese Broadcasting Company. The launch is being described by such adjectives as "spooky" and "cliff hanging." Even President Nixon, a one-time Navy man himself, admitted he had some anxious moments but added, "I'm really proud of those three men up there." Weather is a news item in Houston where temperatures are expected to dip into the 20's tonight. Automobile owners are being advised to put anti-freeze in their car radiators. Today's a voting day in Houston as Houston picks a mayor, eight councilmen, four school-board members, and decides upon a number of special issues. In sports, Houston Oiler Woody Campbell ended rumors and speculation yesterday by strolling into the Oiler training room and putting on his uniform. He says he's in good shape after 10 months as an MP with the First Infantry Division in Vietnam and hopes to be in action very soon. We're working up some ball scores for you; the only one available right now is a halftime score, it's Ohio State 28 and Purdue 7.
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- Tass, the official Soviet news agency, reported the start of the mission and a brief factual report in both of its Russian and foreign language reports;
- Czechoslovak television carried a live coverage of the lift-off, complete with an explanation of technical details;
- In West Germany, all radio and television networks carried the launch live, as did the Japanese Broadcasting Company;
- Weather is a news item in Houston where temperatures are expected to dip into the 20's tonight;
- In sports, Houston Oiler Woody Campbell ended rumors and speculation yesterday by strolling into the Oiler training room and putting on his uniform. He says he's in good shape after 10 months as an MP with the First Infantry Division in Vietnam and hopes to be in action very soon;
- We're working up some ball scores for you; the only one available right now is a halftime score, it's Ohio State 28 and Purdue 7.
How did Mission Control know that Czechoslovak TV would carry live coverage of the lift-off?
053:12:09 Weitz: Okay, 12. The news reports on the flight of Apollo 12 are highlighting yesterday's midcourse correction and the fact that the flight is moving along smoothly. One wire service story calls attention to the improvement in the food menu on this flight. Local, as well as network stations, played video taped highlights of your television show yesterday. Prayers for the flight's success were said in churches everywhere. In Houston, Mayor Louie Welch won his fourth consecutive term by defeating five candidates. He won 53 percent of the vote. His nearest opponent was Curtis Graves, who received about 31 percent of the vote. A minimum housing code and a freedom-of-choice integration plan won strong support. That's about it for news. A recap of how the top 10 teams did yesterday. Ohio State beat Purdue 42 to 14; Texas beat TCU 69 to 7 - I guess they're trying to edge Ohio State in the ratings. Tennessee lost to Mississippi; final score on that one was 38 to nothing. Arkansas beat SMU 28 to 15; Penn State over Maryland 48 to nothing; Southern Cal edged out Washington 16 to 7; UCLA over Oregon 13 to 10; Missouri beat Iowa State 40 to 13; Notre Dame won over Georgia Tech last night 38 to 20; and, of course, Purdue lost to Ohio State. Some pro scores today as they're in - these are finals - Dallas beat Washington 4l to 28; Detroit over St. Louis 20 to nothing; the Minnesota Vikings squeaked by Green Bay 9 to 7; and Kansas City, in the American League, beat New York 34 to 16. And we'll keep you posted on them as they come in later.
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- In Houston, Mayor Louie Welch won his fourth consecutive term by defeating five candidates. He won 53 percent of the vote. His nearest opponent was Curtis Graves, who received about 31 percent of the vote;
- A minimum housing code and a freedom-of-choice integration plan won strong support;
- A recap of how the top 10 teams did yesterday. Ohio State beat Purdue 42 to 14; Texas beat TCU 69 to 7 - I guess they're trying to edge Ohio State in the ratings. Tennessee lost to Mississippi; final score on that one was 38 to nothing. Arkansas beat SMU 28 to 15; Penn State over Maryland 48 to nothing; Southern Cal edged out Washington 16 to 7; UCLA over Oregon 13 to 10; Missouri beat Iowa State 40 to 13; Notre Dame won over Georgia Tech last night 38 to 20; and, of course, Purdue lost to Ohio State. Some pro scores today as they're in - these are finals - Dallas beat Washington 4l to 28; Detroit over St. Louis 20 to nothing; the Minnesota Vikings squeaked by Green Bay 9 to 7; and Kansas City, in the American League, beat New York 34 to 16.
That’s thirteen football matches to fix.
078:38:11 Gibson: We have some morning news for you. The news of the flight of Apollo 12 continues to maintain world-wide interest, and your television broadcasts are getting priority preference on the local and network newscasts. There's a lot of foreign press here at Houston Press Center, and it is expected to intensify as you get closer to the lunar landing. Incidentally, there's a new baby boy born to a Baltimore, Maryland, mother at the precise time of your lift-off. Her name - or his name is Charles Richard Alan. Wilson is their last name.
- Incidentally, there's a new baby boy born to a Baltimore, Maryland, mother at the precise time of your lift-off. Her name - or his name is Charles Richard Alan. Wilson is their last name.
Well, I suppose that could just be made up. But I’m sure a bit of searching will find either a news report or some evidence that Charles Wilson was born in Baltimore during Apollo 12.
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Post by PeterB on Sept 7, 2005 23:07:49 GMT -4
Apollo 15:
049:12:46 Allen: Okay, Apollo 15. This is your friendly news reporter with the morning news. Apparently the Houston Post reported, yesterday, that the Falcon's checkout went smoothly, and the mission is proceeding on schedule. The inside pages show drawings of how you will deploy the Lunar Roving Vehicle. They didn't tell us anything I think we don't already know so I won't go into the details of the drawings. In national news, Secretary of Labor Hodgson has asked the United Transportation Union and the rail industry to put their dispute before a neutral panel for settlement. U.S. Senate will vote today on an amendment to delay a federally guaranteed loan to Lockheed. The vote is expected to be very close. In local news, a Texas animal health commission employee said that he thinks that the Harris County vaccination program against sleeping sickness is almost at an end. I don't know if they're going to institute preflight quarantine on the animals or not. And more than a hundred people were arrested during a raid of the Arlington Country Club in Texas, last night, and gambling equipment was confiscated. Maybe you left town just in time. In sports, yesterday, the Baltimore Orioles increased their lead to four games in the American League East by winning the double header from the Oakland Athletics, 1-0 and 6-4. And the Houston Astro's split a twilight double header last night with the Phillies, 8 to 3 and 5 to 1. Muhammad Ali announced that - and I'll stand - all right, Muhammad Ali announced that he will fight Jerry Quarry, September, in the Astrodome and Ali also wants a rematch with Joe Frazier sometime in March, 1972. The Oilers have trimmed their roster to 59 players by placing two of the players, Johnny Peacock and Tom Smiley, on waivers. Four golfers were inducted into the American Golf Hall of Fame last night. They are Julius Boros, Cary Middlecoff, Jock Hutchinson, and the late Walter J. Travis. And we hate to tell you this, but Elizabeth Taylor is a grandmother, at age 39 when her 19-year-old daughter-in-law gave birth to a 6 pound, 2 ounce girl yesterday. And that's all from the Houston MOCR News Center.
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- Apparently the Houston Post reported, yesterday, that the Falcon's checkout went smoothly, and the mission is proceeding on schedule. The inside pages show drawings of how you will deploy the Lunar Roving Vehicle;
- Secretary of Labor Hodgson has asked the United Transportation Union and the rail industry to put their dispute before a neutral panel for settlement;
- U.S. Senate will vote today on an amendment to delay a federally guaranteed loan to Lockheed;
- In local news, a Texas animal health commission employee said that he thinks that the Harris County vaccination program against sleeping sickness is almost at an end;
- And more than a hundred people were arrested during a raid of the Arlington Country Club in Texas, last night, and gambling equipment was confiscated;
- In sports, yesterday, the Baltimore Orioles increased their lead to four games in the American League East by winning the double header from the Oakland Athletics, 1-0 and 6-4. And the Houston Astro's split a twilight double header last night with the Phillies, 8 to 3 and 5 to 1;
- Muhammad Ali announced that he will fight Jerry Quarry, September, in the Astrodome and Ali also wants a rematch with Joe Frazier sometime in March, 1972;
- The Oilers have trimmed their roster to 59 players by placing two of the players, Johnny Peacock and Tom Smiley, on waivers;
- Four golfers were inducted into the American Golf Hall of Fame last night. They are Julius Boros, Cary Middlecoff, Jock Hutchinson, and the late Walter J. Travis;
- And we hate to tell you this, but Elizabeth Taylor is a grandmother, at age 39 when her 19-year-old daughter-in-law gave birth to a 6 pound, 2 ounce girl yesterday.
Now you’re going to have to convince me that Muhammad Ali played along with the fakery, and that NASA knew beforehand the weight of Liz Taylor’s grand daughter. Yikes!
071:39:26 Allen: Roger. This is from the MOCR Gold Bugle and Taglich Zeitung News. The Administration effort to rescue Lockheed Aircraft cleared a major hurdle in the Senate yesterday when an amendment to deny favored status was rejected 60 to 35. Houston unemployment rose to 4.1 percent in June, an increase of a full percentage point from May, which is the highest in 6 years. And this morning's Post reports that the checkout of Falcon went on with a few words from Worden and virtually nothing from the other astronauts. However, I think that's incorrect and I enjoyed talking to you very much yesterday. In sporting news, Houston dumped Philadelphia, 6 to 3, and is now in fourth place, 10 games behind the Giants. And an interesting note from the North. Bart Starr underwent surgery yesterday for a bicep tendon transplant and will be out of action for at least 12 weeks. And that's all from the Daily Zeitung this morning.
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- The Administration effort to rescue Lockheed Aircraft cleared a major hurdle in the Senate yesterday when an amendment to deny favored status was rejected 60 to 35;
- Houston unemployment rose to 4.1 percent in June, an increase of a full percentage point from May, which is the highest in 6 years;
- And this morning's Post reports that the checkout of Falcon went on with a few words from Worden and virtually nothing from the other astronauts;
- In sporting news, Houston dumped Philadelphia, 6 to 3, and is now in fourth place, 10 games behind the Giants;
- And an interesting note from the North. Bart Starr underwent surgery yesterday for a bicep tendon transplant and will be out of action for at least 12 weeks.
Nothing much significant there. In the light of previous requirements, fixing a Senate vote should be easy, as should fixing a single baseball score. And someone who knows might care to explain the significance of Bart Starr.
236:18:39 Allen: President Nixon in effect declared U.S. responsibility for offensive ground combat operations in Vietnam at an end. With the draft still in limbo, Selective Service went ahead today with the lottery to determine the order in which next year's nineteen-year-olds will face military service. Secretary of State William P. Rogers plans to go to the United Nations to push for a more energetic international relief effort for East Pakistan today. The Senate Armed Services Committee completed action on a 21 billion dollar military buying bill that meets most Nixon Administration weapons requests. President Nixon and his family will fly to Manchester, New Hampshire, and then to a private island in Maine this weekend, when visits to New Hampshire also are planned by four Democratic presidential hopefuls and Republican challenger Rep - Paul N. McClosky, Jr. Predicted weather for recovery day is 2,000 feet scattered, 10 miles vis, and waves approaching 6 feet. Wind is north by northeast, 18 knots. I have a long list of baseball scores here, which I'll just glance over. In the American League, New York beat Cleveland 7 to 3. I have here a local request for the Dodgers who lost to the Astros 2 to 0. The American Classic Golf Tournament starts today at the Firestone Country Club in Akron, Ohio. And the winner will get $30,000 dollars. Sounds to me like the pay's pretty good, and I expect the hours are short. The U.S. Pan American Team went on a fantastic Gold Medal spree yesterday, winning 17 - rather 16 of the 17 medals at stake. The only one the Americans escaped getting was the Gold Medal in weight lifting. And the total in the games, which are being held in Columbia, is 78 for the United states, 36 of them gold, and 51 for Cuba, 12 of them are gold. And I'll end with the story comparable all the way to that incredible contest between the Apollo 15 All Stars and the North American Rockets. Last night in the Texas League, 21-year-old right-hander Tom Walker, pitching for Dallas-Fort Worth team, pitched a 15 inning, no-run, no-hit game against Albuquerque. He retired the last 21 men in a row. Only four Albuquerque players got on base and all of them were on walks. Walker got the first 18 batters out before he walked the first one. He threw 153 pitches in the game, and the no-hitter is an all time record in the Texas League and may very well be an all time record in Major League Baseball. Walker's manager told him that if he did not win the game in the 15th inning, he was going to have to pull him out. Walker said his arm felt a little tired, but he felt okay, understandably.
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- President Nixon in effect declared U.S. responsibility for offensive ground combat operations in Vietnam at an end;
- With the draft still in limbo, Selective Service went ahead today with the lottery to determine the order in which next year's nineteen-year-olds will face military service;
- Secretary of State William P. Rogers plans to go to the United Nations to push for a more energetic international relief effort for East Pakistan today;
- The Senate Armed Services Committee completed action on a 21 billion dollar military buying bill that meets most Nixon Administration weapons requests;
- President Nixon and his family will fly to Manchester, New Hampshire, and then to a private island in Maine this weekend, when visits to New Hampshire also are planned by four Democratic presidential hopefuls and Republican challenger Rep - Paul N. McClosky, Jr;
- In the American League, New York beat Cleveland 7 to 3. I have here a local request for the Dodgers who lost to the Astros 2 to 0;
- The U.S. Pan American Team went on a fantastic Gold Medal spree yesterday, winning 17 - rather 16 of the 17 medals at stake. The only one the Americans escaped getting was the Gold Medal in weight lifting;
- Last night in the Texas League, 21-year-old right-hander Tom Walker, pitching for Dallas-Fort Worth team, pitched a 15 inning, no-run, no-hit game against Albuquerque. He retired the last 21 men in a row. Only four Albuquerque players got on base and all of them were on walks. Walker got the first 18 batters out before he walked the first one. He threw 153 pitches in the game, and the no-hitter is an all time record in the Texas League and may very well be an all time record in Major League Baseball.
So now we’re at the point where intricate details of a baseball pitcher’s efforts are pre-plotted. That’s impressive. But that must pale against the effort of getting all the participants in the Pan-American Games, including Cuba, to agree to the US efforts in winning medals.
262:10:38 Allen: Roger. This is the news for 6 August, 1971. In the first round in the American Classic at Firestone Country Club, Akron, Ohio, the leaders are Jerry Heard and Mike Hill, both with 3 under par 67s. Arnie Palmer shot a 70 and Nicklaus a 73. The U.S. built its gold medal total to 50 in the Pan Am Games, and they're entering their second week now. Cuba is a distant second with 17 gold medals, but a Cuban set a world record yesterday in the hop, skip, and jump. The record was 57 feet, 1 inch. We're coming up on the first full weekend of national football exhibition games, and New Orleans Saints play the Buffalo Bills; Dallas Cowboys play the L.A. Rams. And these two games are the beginning of an 11-game weekend. I've got the baseball scores. American League East: Yankee's beat Baltimore, 5 to 0; Boston over Detroit, 5 to 4, American League West: Kansas City over Minnesota, 7 to 4; and Oakland edged out Milwaukee, 2 to 1. The National League: Chicago over San Diego, 3 to 0; Pittsburgh beat Montréal, 7 to 2; and Houston 0, the Dodgers 3. The government reports today the latest figures in the nation's unemployment problem, and one private economist predicts the jobless rates probably will show still another rise. Five days after the steel industry and Union agreed on a new contract without a strike, tens of thousands of steel workers have been laid off, and the hearths are cold as users consume steel-strike-preparedness stock piles. William Martin, Jr., who reorganized the New York Stock Exchange 33 years ago, proposes an overhaul of the entire securities industry.
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- In the first round in the American Classic at Firestone Country Club, Akron, Ohio, the leaders are Jerry Heard and Mike Hill, both with 3 under par 67s. Arnie Palmer shot a 70 and Nicklaus a 73;
- The U.S. built its gold medal total to 50 in the Pan Am Games, and they're entering their second week now. Cuba is a distant second with 17 gold medals, but a Cuban set a world record yesterday in the hop, skip, and jump. The record was 57 feet, 1 inch;
- American League East: Yankee's beat Baltimore, 5 to 0; Boston over Detroit, 5 to 4, American League West: Kansas City over Minnesota, 7 to 4; and Oakland edged out Milwaukee, 2 to 1. The National League: Chicago over San Diego, 3 to 0; Pittsburgh beat Montréal, 7 to 2; and Houston 0, the Dodgers 3;
- Five days after the steel industry and Union agreed on a new contract without a strike, tens of thousands of steel workers have been laid off, and the hearths are cold as users consume steel-strike-preparedness stock piles;
- William Martin, Jr., who reorganized the New York Stock Exchange 33 years ago, proposes an overhaul of the entire securities industry.
So now we’re predicting golf scores ahead of time? Can you imagine the pressure on a golfer to get that 20-foot putt to make the score assigned to him? But I admit I can see how NASA got Cuba to agree to the USA winning all those medals at the Pan-Am Games – by giving them a world record in the triple jump. All they had to do was either make sure the athlete concerned then did jump the distance, or convince all the officials to measure it as such, and get the other athletes to go along with it.
262:13:00 Allen: The Senate shelves, until September 13, that compromise draft-extension bill, which President Nixon wants now, and when it comes up, it will, quite possibly, face a filibuster. The U.S./Middle East expert Joseph Sisco concludes "practical and concrete," and those are in quotes, talks in Israel. He says no decisive breakthrough was achieved, and he didn't expect any. The Middle East cease-fire, which went into effect last August 7, hasn't ushered in peace, but it has suspended Israeli-Arab fighting. The last 12 months have been the best year for Israel since 1967 and the euphoria induced by results of the Six-day War. A government study says Americans will spend more than 105 billion for medical care in 1974, and even the most ambitious Federal health insurance proposal would add less than 12 billion to the tab. Congress is set to embark on a month-long summer vacation after the Senate completes action on a measure keeping Federal agencies in business until October 15. That's good news. And an added word which could be a science update; you may have heard yesterday, but let me repeat it anyway. We've had very clean laser returns off the LR cubed, which is located at Hadley Base; In fact, very good and immediate returns from that. Also, as you know, we have a good subsatellite orbiting the Moon, and are getting data from all the experiments onboard that.
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- The Senate shelves, until September 13, that compromise draft-extension bill, which President Nixon wants now, and when it comes up, it will, quite possibly, face a filibuster;
- The U.S./Middle East expert Joseph Sisco concludes "practical and concrete," and those are in quotes, talks in Israel. He says no decisive breakthrough was achieved, and he didn't expect any. The Middle East cease-fire, which went into effect last August 7, hasn't ushered in peace, but it has suspended Israeli-Arab fighting;
- A government study says Americans will spend more than 105 billion for medical care in 1974, and even the most ambitious Federal health insurance proposal would add less than 12 billion to the tab;
Nothing much here. I dare it would be easy to get an advanced copy of the health study. Though I’m impressed that NASA was willing to put words in the mouth of a negotiator conducting Arab-Israeli peace talks.
286:54:51 Allen: Roger. And this will be a short one. The rest of it, you can read for yourselves today in the papers. Congress has started a month-long summer recess, setting the pattern for a government-wide exodus likely to make Washington a virtual ghost town for the rest of August. The Senate finally quit at 7:30 Friday night, more than six hours after the House had adjourned at about one in the afternoon. And after passing an 18 billion dollar higher education bill and three key appropriations measures. Besides the Labor-HEW appropriations, the Senate approved, Friday, a $1 billion measure to provide public service jobs mainly for Vietnam veterans and a continuing resolution to fund agencies still without regular appropriations until the 15th of October. In Chile, four [sic] government ministers presented their resignations to president Salvador Allende on Friday, causing the first cabinet crisis since the President took office last November. I have a long list of baseball scores which I think I'll skip over here. In exhibition football, the Buffalo Bills downed the New Orleans Saints, 14 to 10, and the Cowboys won over the L.A. Rams, 45 to 21. In the American Golf Classic at the Firestone Country Club in Akron, Ohio, Jerry Heard is still leading with 7 under par, 133, at the halfway mark. And Bob Lunn is next with a 4 under par, 136. The United States basketball team was eliminated yesterday in the Pan-American games in Columbia, and the U.S. baseball team was upset by the Dominican Republic, 5 to 4. In tennis, Stan Smith is the last seeded player still in competition at the Western Championship in Cincinnati. And today in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts, Marty Riessen meets Australian Ken Rosewall, and South African Cliff Drysdale meets John Newcombe in the semi-finals of the U.S. professional tennis tournament. And that's all I have from here. Over.
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- The Senate finally quit at 7:30 Friday night, more than six hours after the House had adjourned at about one in the afternoon. And after passing an 18 billion dollar higher education bill and three key appropriations measures. Besides the Labor-HEW appropriations, the Senate approved, Friday, a $1 billion measure to provide public service jobs mainly for Vietnam veterans and a continuing resolution to fund agencies still without regular appropriations until the 15th of October;
- In Chile, four [sic] government ministers presented their resignations to president Salvador Allende on Friday, causing the first cabinet crisis since the President took office last November;
- In exhibition football, the Buffalo Bills downed the New Orleans Saints, 14 to 10, and the Cowboys won over the L.A. Rams, 45 to 21;
- In the American Golf Classic at the Firestone Country Club in Akron, Ohio, Jerry Heard is still leading with 7 under par, 133, at the halfway mark. And Bob Lunn is next with a 4 under par, 136;
- The United States basketball team was eliminated yesterday in the Pan-American games in Columbia, and the U.S. baseball team was upset by the Dominican Republic, 5 to 4.
Ooh. Now NASA is finding out that Chilean Ministers are going to resign. But more golf scores. And you’re lucky there weren’t any tennis scores. I would have been very upset if you’d required Newk to be part of the conspiracy!
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Post by jovianmoon on Sept 7, 2005 23:42:54 GMT -4
Excellent. Great stuff, PeterB. Is that all from the ALSJ, or are there other sources as well?
Well, Margamatix? Well? We're waiting...
Can you provide a rejoinder to this that is well reasoned and logical, internally consistent with the hoax theory and has supporting evidence? I won't be holding my breath.
Alright, alright, go on then - restate your 'gut-feeling' belief and ignore yet more evidence that refutes your hoax delusions about Apollo. Or respond with silence. Or start a new thread on a different topic. Whichever best enables you to avoid being accountable for your repetitive claims on this board.
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Al Johnston
"Cheer up!" they said, "It could be worse!" So I did, and it was.
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Post by Al Johnston on Sept 8, 2005 6:31:09 GMT -4
The one on the Tyne ;D What happened was that I went to University at the time when Channel 4 introduced televised American Football to the UK, so I got into it then. We even put a team together at Uni: we couldn't afford the armour, but that didn't slow us down any. I played Center: broadly speaking, I started off with the ball, then quickly gave it to someone else and got on with the real game: flattening anyone who was standing in front of me...
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