Do any scientists believe in the Hoax?

[lenbrazil]

Specifically those whose area of study is some how related.

Dr. Costella the unpublished high school teacher doesn't count.

As for James M. Collier what kind of scientist was he? His understanding of physics is below high school level [except for Costella's students].

Len

[Bob B.]

I've never encountered anyone with real scientific credentials who doesn't laugh at the notion of a moon landing hoax.

I'm a bit late, but let me also welcome you to the forum.

[TaeKwonDan]

Jay has dealt with one on his page.

www.clavius.org/bibjones.html

[sts60]

I think he was much too kind.

[gezalenko]

taekwondan said:

Jay has dealt with one on his page.

www.clavius.org/bibjones.html

That's a reference to Dr Neville Jones, whose website states "My position in this and other research is that the Scriptural account has absolute precedence. If science is involved at all, then it is secondary and is adjusted as necessary to harmonize with the Hebrew Scriptures (or Tanakh). "
Link - www.geocentric-universe.com/page59.htm

He's entitled to hold that position, but if he does, I think we're entitled to question whether he is a scientist in the normal sense of the word.

[JayUtah]

Dr. Costella the unpublished high school teacher doesn't count.

I agree. Fetzer is published and has an appropriate degree. But I don't see where he applies scientific rigor to his various conspiracy theories.

As for James M. Collier what kind of scientist was he?

None at all. He was a journalist.

Ralph Rene considers himself a "self-trained" physicist. In other words, unqualified.

I don't consider Neville Jones a scientist. He does not follow the scientific method and he gets so much wrong that I can't imagine he actually got a diploma in a scientific field.

I did run across a web site written by a guy whose name escapes me -- the same drivel as everyone else: amateurish and ill-founded photographic analysis. He claimed to have academic degrees, but when I followed up on them they were honorary.

[skinbath]

If there`s one thing I admire some of you guys for,other than the weight of knowledge,it`s got to be for the sheer tenacity and patience involved and displayed in trawling through these mind numbing tracts of tedious and wearisome nonsense, ,(loud guffaw),found on the various websites offered.I don`t know how you do it?It`s cured me of insomnia though,

Thanks very much indeed,both for your service to honesty and medical expertise, .

[lenbrazil]

Thanks Bob!

But What kind of scientist was Collier? He was in the space program after all. Does anybody know if got the boot because he was loosing his mind or did become bitter and lose it after he got canned or are the 2 events not connected.

As for Jones I don't think reply 2[with all due respect] answers my question at all. No matter how many letters he puts after his name he shows no signs of being even a crackpot scientist. It seems he has invented his own religion or belongs to a small cult - I don't think even the most evangelical of evangelical creationist churches still believe in the heliocentric universe.

[lenbrazil]

whoops I confused Collier with O'Leary as Emma Latela would say never mind!

So is Costella the only one? For further insight into how that nut's mind works he gave this webcam link www.earthcam.com/jfk/ as proof that a Dallas museum and the city's parks department are part of some nefarious plot to keep JFK assassination 'researchers' in Dealy Plaza under secret surveillance.

lenbrazil said:

Thanks Bob!

But What kind of scientist was Collier? He was in the space program after all. Does anybody know if got the boot because he was loosing his mind or did become bitter and lose it after he got canned or are the 2 events not connected.

As for Jones I don't think reply 2[with all due respect] answers my question at all. No matter how many letters he puts after his name he shows no signs of being even a crackpot scientist. It seems he has invented his own religion or belongs to a small cult - I don't think even the most evangelical of evangelical creationist churches still believe in the heliocentric universe.

[margamatix]

To say "I am a scientist and therefore my opinion on the moon landings is worth more than yours" is akin to saying "I am a priest and therefore my opinion on the existence of God is worth more than yours"

Scientists believed wholeheartedly in the Cottingley fairies.

[Al Johnston]

margamatix said:

Scientists believed wholeheartedly in the Cottingley fairies.

No, that was mostly Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (an author, not a scientist) who had the pictures published.

Others pointed out significant anomalies ( a misdrawn leg, a visible hatpin holding up the "gnome") as soon as they had a chance to analyse the pictures.

[Al Johnston]

margamatix said:

To say "I am a scientist and therefore my opinion on the moon landings is worth more than yours" is akin to saying "I am a priest and therefore my opinion on the existence of God is worth more than yours"

And there's obviously nothing of any use that you could impart to us on the subject of driving...

[margamatix]

"Photographic experts who were consulted declared that none of the negatives had been tampered with, there was no evidence of double exposures, and that a slight blurring of one of the fairies in photo number one indicated that the fairy was moving during the exposure of 1/50 or 1/100 second".



Source www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/doyle.htm





So much for "experts"!

[Al Johnston]

Jack White clearly had his forebears.

[JayUtah]

whoops I confused Collier with O'Leary as Emma Latela would say never mind!

Brian O'Leary is a qualified scientist, but he does not believe in the moon hoax theory. The Fox program only made it seem that he did.