Post by Ginnie on Jan 20, 2008 20:08:07 GMT -4
Many HB seem to believe that the NASA hierarchy could control the space missions with an iron hand, could hide from its contractors major aspects of a hoaxed moon landing and could conduct its business in secret . They often say that NASA could lie to the public about what was really happening during the missions.
In 1964 Gary Flandro worked at JPL during his college holidays and was asked to join a group to calculate the trajectories for possible missions to Jupiter. Doing his calculations he noticed that in 1980 all the outer planets would line up on the same side of the sun - something the astronomers at JPL had missed. He told his boss of this rare opportunity (it only happens every 180 years) and planning for the Voyager missions started.
They would have to launch in 1978 or 1979 but by 1972 funds for the project dried up and NASA scaled down the mission to visit Jupiter and Saturn only.
Brad Smith, the imaging team leader was told by the NASA programme manager "not to contemplate any changes to the mission whatsoever". Mission scientist Garry Hunt remembers being told by NASA chiefs, "We are not, repeat not, going to Uranus and Neptune".
The mission scientists secretly designed extra fuel loads into the craft so they could go to Uranus and beyond. This was unknown to the NASA hierarchy and was hard to do because of the budgetary restraints, but was made possible.
Hunt said, "We'd miss Pluto, but you have to leave something for your kids".
Now, what I'm NOT saying is that mission scientists could hoax a mission. Everything Voyager eventually did, didn't remain secret forever, I'm sure there was a time well before Voyager launch time that all the programme details were eventually known to NASA chiefs
. What I am saying is that any hoaxed mission could not have been known by only a few people at the time. It is an obvious fact to us here, but not to the HB who seem to think most people involved in the Apollo missions could be in the dark about its true nature.
EDIT: New info...
quote from 'The Planets' by David McNab and James Younger:
(after Voyager 1 got propelled out of the plane of the planets)
"Voyager 2 had performed so well than NASA officials, who had by now got wind of Garry Hunt's covert programme, finally approved the Grand Tour...it was now entering uncharted territory, guided only by the distant glimmer of Uranus that lay four years ahead".
So it seems that secrets could be kept from NASA's top officials, not the other way around.
In 1964 Gary Flandro worked at JPL during his college holidays and was asked to join a group to calculate the trajectories for possible missions to Jupiter. Doing his calculations he noticed that in 1980 all the outer planets would line up on the same side of the sun - something the astronomers at JPL had missed. He told his boss of this rare opportunity (it only happens every 180 years) and planning for the Voyager missions started.
They would have to launch in 1978 or 1979 but by 1972 funds for the project dried up and NASA scaled down the mission to visit Jupiter and Saturn only.
Brad Smith, the imaging team leader was told by the NASA programme manager "not to contemplate any changes to the mission whatsoever". Mission scientist Garry Hunt remembers being told by NASA chiefs, "We are not, repeat not, going to Uranus and Neptune".
The mission scientists secretly designed extra fuel loads into the craft so they could go to Uranus and beyond. This was unknown to the NASA hierarchy and was hard to do because of the budgetary restraints, but was made possible.
Hunt said, "We'd miss Pluto, but you have to leave something for your kids".
Now, what I'm NOT saying is that mission scientists could hoax a mission. Everything Voyager eventually did, didn't remain secret forever, I'm sure there was a time well before Voyager launch time that all the programme details were eventually known to NASA chiefs
. What I am saying is that any hoaxed mission could not have been known by only a few people at the time. It is an obvious fact to us here, but not to the HB who seem to think most people involved in the Apollo missions could be in the dark about its true nature.
EDIT: New info...
quote from 'The Planets' by David McNab and James Younger:
(after Voyager 1 got propelled out of the plane of the planets)
"Voyager 2 had performed so well than NASA officials, who had by now got wind of Garry Hunt's covert programme, finally approved the Grand Tour...it was now entering uncharted territory, guided only by the distant glimmer of Uranus that lay four years ahead".
So it seems that secrets could be kept from NASA's top officials, not the other way around.