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Post by scooter on Aug 4, 2006 21:52:11 GMT -4
Is there a good source, online or otherwise, for relatively detailed maps of the Apollo sites? I'm looking for something with distance scales, LM site, EVA routes/station stops, local crater and terain features and such.
Just starting a mini project to look at some of the alleged "anomolies" the HBs claim...plus it's nice to have when watching the videos and such.
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Post by Tanalia on Aug 4, 2006 22:43:01 GMT -4
One source is the Apollo Landing Sites overview and slides (photos and maps) at the Lunar and Planetary Institute. Click on the thumbnails to see low-res maps, higher res links are on the inficidual pages. A nice reference image of the landing sites can be found here. |
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Post by Count Zero on Aug 5, 2006 23:03:10 GMT -4
This site allows you to zoom in photographically. For the Apollo 17 site the highest resolution picture is the pancam image that shows the LM on the surface.
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Post by freon on Aug 9, 2006 14:51:50 GMT -4
In that pancam image can the 35km of moon rover tracks be seen?
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Post by Kiwi on Aug 13, 2006 7:04:23 GMT -4
I have a nice series of five photos of the Apollo 11 landing site throughout powered descent and landing, showing the ignition site just after the LM passed over Mount Marilyn, which was named after Jim Lovell's wife. They are a mosaic made up from various photos, so the quality varies in parts, and each photo is around 1275 x 1862 pixels, so took a long time to download on dialup. They were assembled before the mission and show the "landing oval", but I believe that the Eagle landed just beyond it. Most craters are named.
I don't know where I got them from now, but the file numbers might help -- A11_LDP_00.jpg to 04.jpg. PDI start is in No. 04 and the landing site in No. 00.
There is also a Landing Ascent Profile series with the middle abbreviation LAP, naturally.
Post the link if you find it.
There's another photo,
A11_LsiteHRenlarged.gif
which shows the landing site close up, with West Crater, the one Neil Armstrong overflew, and East Crater, the one he ran back to photograph.
>> Edited to change "to 004.jpg" to "to 04.jpg".
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Post by acpinto on Aug 21, 2006 12:42:29 GMT -4
This site allows you to zoom in photographically. For the Apollo 17 site the highest resolution picture is the pancam image that shows the LM on the surface. Getting more confused, it wasn´t a claim that we can´t see hardware left because isn´t possible with earth based telescope and they clame that this fotos were made with a moderate telescope?  |
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Post by gwiz on Aug 21, 2006 12:49:11 GMT -4
This site allows you to zoom in photographically. For the Apollo 17 site the highest resolution picture is the pancam image that shows the LM on the surface. Getting more confused, it wasn´t a claim that we can´t see hardware left because isn´t possible with earth based telescope and they clame that this fotos were made with a moderate telescope? Pancam was the panoramic camera carried on Apollo 15, 16 and 17, not an earth telescope. |
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Post by acpinto on Aug 21, 2006 12:52:43 GMT -4
Thanks for the explanation
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Post by freon on Aug 21, 2006 17:28:53 GMT -4
It's pretty hard to discern much from that photo. It just looks like a rock. Someone should try to corroberate this with some other form of data like a radar reflection from the lander and the rover.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Aug 21, 2006 19:21:21 GMT -4
It's pretty hard to discern much from that photo. It just looks like a rock. The LM might look like a rock, but it's not in photographs taken of the same area prior to the landing. Rocks don't tend to suddenly appear out of nowhere like that.  |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 21, 2006 19:25:29 GMT -4
So what you're saying is that NASA dropped a big rock there and claimed it was a space craft. |
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Post by Count Zero on Aug 21, 2006 20:42:28 GMT -4
A while back I saw (posted somewhere) Pancam photos of the Apollo 15 landing site. The first photo was taken shortly after landing, and you could see the LM as a bump with a long shadow. The second picture was taken on either day 2 or 3. The shadow was noticably shorter, and you could see the darker soil exposed as the astronauts worked around the LM, and traversed a couple of hudred yards to the ALSEP site.
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Post by echnaton on Aug 21, 2006 22:32:24 GMT -4
It's pretty hard to discern much from that photo.
That true.
It just looks like a rock.
It doesn’t look like a rock. It is really indistinct.
Someone should try to corroberate this with some other form of data like a radar reflection from the lander and the rover.[/]
Like say the radar taken from earth during the landing?
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Post by freon on Aug 21, 2006 22:59:37 GMT -4
It could have been added later. Maybe at the NPIC building 213. I would like to see the darker soil picture showing the astronauts bootwork. Also if you can find the picture of the dark soil exposed by the astonauts as they worked around the LM, one would think you could easily see the 35 KM of moon rover tracks also. Where's this radar info? NASA.gov?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 21, 2006 23:16:46 GMT -4
Like say the radar taken from earth during the landing?
Can you cooberate this? I know that the LM used radar to determine its height, but I have never hear of NASA using it at mission control, and I wouldn't have though that Radar would have been a lot of use at the distance of the moon.
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