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Post by voyager3 on Nov 28, 2007 16:33:49 GMT -4
I came across this film when looking up Apollo on Youtube. I don't know how many people here have seen it before but I thought I'd put it up as it is really cool! It contains a lot of close ups of the Saturn V on the pad, the flight controllors' chatter in Houston and the amount of detail you can see as the rocket stages is incredible!  uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XKtH0uzg8wU&feature=related |
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Post by Czero 101 on Nov 28, 2007 17:03:16 GMT -4
Here's a great video of the Apollo 11 launch. Its basically the television coverage one would have seen on July 16, 1969 starting at T - 00:05:59 and continuing through S-I-C and Interstage separation. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zGNryrsT7OICz |
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 28, 2007 20:19:31 GMT -4
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Post by scooter on Nov 29, 2007 12:08:51 GMT -4
If you like the SV launch, you really need to get "The Mighty Saturns" from Spacecraft Films...Gobs of Saturn V engineering footage.
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 1, 2007 20:11:56 GMT -4
You might be interested in more on the Apollo 8 program: <Snip Links> All these can either be streamed or downloaded as MPEGS. Nice find I've actually got several of the other NASA doco's (Apollo 11, 13, 15, 16 & 17) on a cheepo DVD set, but for some reason 8 & 9 don't form part of it. |
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Post by Kiwi on Dec 2, 2007 3:30:46 GMT -4
I've actually got several of the other NASA doco's (Apollo 11, 13, 15, 16 & 17) on a cheepo DVD set, but for some reason 8 & 9 don't form part of it. I've done indexes of the Apollo 11-17 films in Excel95 -- the personnel in scenes, the GET for the dialogue, and who is speaking etc. (where known). Anyone who'd like a free copy is welcome to one -- just PM me with your email address. Good idea, too, to advise the length (minutes and seconds) of the films you have, because I've done indexes for some of the condensed versions. You may have different start times than me, but it's a simple matter of opening up a cloumn and using a formula to match the time of my scenes to yours. I can give more info about how to do this for anyone who wants to know. For instance, those who enjoyed episode 10 of "From the Earth to the Moon" where Lee Silver taught the astronauts about geology might like to look up the real person in the 28 min. 18 sec. version of "Apollo 17: On the Shoulders of Giants" at 0:11:32, 0:15:50, 0:16:32, 0:16:50, and 0:18:36. Kiwis can currently pick up a box set of five DVDs (Region 0, PAL) which have nine of the films (Gemini 8, Apollo 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16, and 17) at The Warehouse for only NZ$18.99, and they include other interesting Aerospace stuff from The Military Channel. They are slightly condensed -- mostly just missing the end credits -- and although not top quality, are better than some of the DVDs around. If they're not in stock at your branch of The Warehouse, their stock number for the set, called "Space", from Boulevard Entertainment, is 5060126184058. I've never found a high-quality full length (28 minutes 21 seconds) copy of "Apollo 12: Pinpoint for Science" on DVD, only video, and no copy of "Apollo 9: The Space Duet of Spider and Gumdrop" on any media, so if anyone can tell me which DVD sets have those in the best quality available, I'd be grateful. There are some really rubbishy DVDs on the market. |
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Post by Ginnie on Dec 2, 2007 18:34:03 GMT -4
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 4, 2007 1:08:21 GMT -4
Kiwis can currently pick up a box set of five DVDs (Region 0, PAL) which have nine of the films (Gemini 8, Apollo 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16, and 17) at The Warehouse for only NZ$18.99, and they include other interesting Aerospace stuff from The Military Channel. They are slightly condensed -- mostly just missing the end credits -- and although not top quality, are better than some of the DVDs around. In (Western Australia) the discount chain Crazy Clarks offers a set of five DVDs released by Payless Entertainment. The set I have is entitled "NASA: 50 Years of Space Exploration", DVDs 1, 2 & 3 cover Apollo & Skylab. They have recently been re-issued with new covers that actually list the contents of each DVD. Quality of the transfers is variable but nothing is unwatchable. DVD 1 has Mercury - Gemini (4/8) & Apollo 11. DVD 2 has Apollo 13, 15, 16, 17 & Apollo-Soyuz DVD 3 has Skylab & some material on the space shuttle. I'll edit this later when I have all the titles for the films featured. |
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Post by Kiwi on Dec 4, 2007 7:00:37 GMT -4
That's cruel, unusual and exceptionally harsh punishment, Ginnie, alerting me to the existence of that set at a time when my bank balance won't allow its purchase. Does anybody know what the quality is like? It certainly is a comprehensive set, and not a bad price, except that although it says it's complete, it's missing one of the two movies I want on DVD: "Apollo 12: Pinpoint for Science." What's your copy of that film like, Ginnie? Is it 28 minutes 21 seconds long? How about "Four Rooms, Earth View" too? Mine is taken from a very faded film. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Dec 4, 2007 17:22:26 GMT -4
I got this a few months back, though it's still in the cellophane wrapper. It has stuff on gemini and the Space Shuttle too. My two complaints would be that the missions are all mixed up on the discs and that certain missions are missing.  |
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Post by Ginnie on Dec 4, 2007 21:33:53 GMT -4
Pinpoint for Science is listed at 27:45 but runs to 28:06 The quality is not great - blurry, like an old VHS tape. The sound is muddy. All the stuff on these cheap DVD sets seem to exhibit these qualities. Here is a printscreen from 4Rms:  I could see some of the other coverage being not up to par, but since E.G. Marshall would have been in a studio environment and filmed properly you would think that at least these parts would be good quality. But they are not. Makes you wonder if it was videotaped instead fo filmed. So much coverage of events in the 70's are in terrible shape because of the degradation of the original tape. I wish I had really clear footage of the 1972 Canada-Russia Summit Series! Here are two shots from Pinpoint:   One of the films I have has such bad audio quality that it is hard to listen too. This is kind of funny, but they probably did the best they could?  |
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 5, 2007 18:44:59 GMT -4
The two cheap sets available through Crazy Clarks are not the same. The first set 'NASA: 50 Years of Space Exploration' (No longer for sale) has a somewhat 'rough' appearance to it's start up. Just footage of John Glenn's second launch and then a menu with five 'unnamed' options per disk. Packaging did not list the contents and the 'blub' was somewhat vague. The second set entitled 'Triumph & Tragedies: NASA 25 Years" (PEL145-PEL149) is much more professional in appearance and actually lists the contents with a proper description of each on the box. But the ability to select an individual film has been lost save through the chapter selection menu. Contents are slightly different though. Vol 1. Freedom 7, Voyage of Friendship 7, Four Days of Gemini. Vol 2. The Eagle Has Landed, Houston We Have A Problem, In The Mountains of the Moon & Nothing So Hidden. Vol 3. On the Shoulders of Giants, The Mission of Apollo-Soyuz, Skylab - The First 40 Days & Four Rooms, Earth View. The remaining two volumes are Space Shuttle related. Despite the changes, the material is still the same degraded footage on all the other cheap sets mentioned. I think that someone out there , perhaps the "Destra Entertainment" who get a mention on the box 'ripped' a set of videos and now license their copies to the low end of the market. I have serious doubts that any of this material has been remastered or obtained from the 'original masters', despite what it says on the copyright statement.  |
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Post by Kiwi on Dec 6, 2007 5:48:09 GMT -4
So much coverage of events in the 70's are in terrible shape because of the degradation of the original tape. They're just making excuses for the poor quality, some of which, I think, have been digitised from Video tapes that were made from the movie films, or taken from faded, scratched and dirty films. My video tape of Apollo 12 : Pinpoint for Science (United States Film Corporation and PolyGram Video) is dated 1992 and the images are of better quality than those on many of the crappy DVDs that are being sold. Do yourself a favour and buy or hire a copy of the DVD of Al Reinert's movie, For All Mankind. He took the original films out of cold storage and copied them for the movie, and they are amazingly good. It's a great movie -- I've watched it about seven times and never got tired of it. Run it at least twice, listening to the soundtrack and then Al Reinert and Gene Cernan's commentary track. I can supply typescripts of those too. A marvellous bonus on the DVD is 24 of Al Bean's paintings, complete with brief commentaries. Mark Gray has also done a great job with the old 16mm films on his Spacecraft Films DVDs. Some of his films in the Project Mercury set, which show Mercury spacecraft being assembled before Al Shepard's flight, look like they were filmed digitally just yesterday. |
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Post by Ginnie on Dec 6, 2007 20:50:41 GMT -4
Kiwi, did you do the transcripts yourself, but watching the films over and over? Man, that's quite the feat you know. I can quote a lot from 'Lawrence of Arabia' but I couldn't tell you exactly what minute/second of the film the dialogue is from!  |
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Post by Kiwi on Dec 7, 2007 4:24:44 GMT -4
1. Yes, but it's over and over and over and over. And sometimes over again. But it's quite normal for a pesky pedant like me. 2. Yes, I know. ;D I've only made up transcripts and indexes to Apollo stuff, and only since I started buying DVDs, mainly because I often wanted to find some particular scene in a film or quote some dialogue. Later on I also got curious about who the various personnel were in Mission Control or the Science Support Room (Geologists), so like Topsy, the project just growed. Being an amateur historian, I think that as many of the personnel as possible should be identified. Have you found the indexes useful yet? The transcripts I did of the Apollo 11 translunar TV broadcasts were mainly to support those who were getting stuck into Bart Sibrel's "interpretation" of them, such as Count Zero in his marvellous "Smoking Gun" thread. Somebody once said that Mark Gray was working on DVDs of the NASA movies, so I emailed him to see if he wanted to use the indexes, but never heard back. Going by one of his posts here, his anti-spam software probably did the electronic equivalent of shredding my email before he got to see it. |
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