those who know..KNOW!!...,ECHELON(NSA)

[altair4]

hi ya!!! BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING U!!!!

checkout: Echelon(wikipedia) conspiracy theorist will love this!

Echelon(NSA) looks for keywords in cellphones,emails,fax's,etc the keywords are intercepted!!! if your not careful the men in black might come knocking on your door!!

goto GCSB (Waihopai) on Wikipedia

yes folks RIGHT NOW this "beast" is looking for keywords so I will type :

fissionable,Tangimoana Beach,KH-11,4kg,Area 51,MJ12,Majic,Knights Templar,New World Order,President,Waihopai,GCSB,MI5,MI6,Industrial Espionage,Juliet Submarine,William Gates,NSA,NRO,Black Operations,.....

I really could go on...but I will be stepping on thin ice!!

I am not going beyond this level! because I don't want 2 get myself or someone else in trouble!!

It's good 2 know the boys at Waihopai,and Canberra,and Japan and other listening stations around the world KNOW what I am saying (it might be Orwellian,but U need 2 have a global surveillance system!)

Echelon knows the TRUTH about EVERYTHING U DO ON A COMPUTER.

BUSH knew of plane attacks on the US B4 Sept 11(Presidential Daily Briefing),how did he know?-ECHELON

terrorist operations in NZ last year,how did police know when 2
take action?-ECHELON

how does the government know how much is your bank account (and mine)-ECHELON

HOW I KNOW WE WALKED ON THE MOON-ECHELON!(GUARANTEED) there are no hoax keywords..I KNOW THAT 4 A FACT!!

WE WALKED ON THE MOON!!!!

Neil Armstrong your the 1st man 2 walk on the moon,your a hero and a Positive Role Model U dont need 2 talk sh*t because you've got the RIght Stuff and thats why winners are grinners because they have the Right Attitude!!!

Buzz Aldrin (Nasa Mission reports,Vol 1) talks about how he believed in HIMSELF!! and gives credit 2 the people he worked with to achieve a goal...and they SUCCEEDED!!!

these guys achieved extraordinary things because they ARE extra-ordinary!!

I judge people by their ATTITUDE,these guys are the best!!

The moon hoax is in YOUR MIND!!

and those who know...KNOW!!..THEY KNOW THE TRUTH!!

WELL DONE APOLLO!!!!!

[Jason]

This guy can't be for real. I sense a troll at work.

[Czero 101]

Is there an "Ignore List" option here...?

[Ginnie]

czero101 said:

Is there an "Ignore List" option here...?

altair4 is all right...I just want him to answer my damn questions regarding his threads!

[JayUtah]

I really could go on...but I will be stepping on thin ice!!

In other words you've run out of innuendo and can't say any more without it being testable and possibly dismissable. Do you actually have special knowledge, or are you just bluffing?

[Ginnie]

Altair4, you've managed to start about eight threads in fifteen posts yet you STILL have not replied to our responses to the first three.
Please...please...(sobbing)

I'll just go over two of the more interesting ones:

You posted:

check this out!!
goto Google,type in : Apollo image atlas,Apollo15
this will come up with: Apollo Image Atlas,70mm Hassleblad Image Catalog
this will take you to the Lunar and Planetary Institute website
now go to: Magazine PP (AS15-90-12179 to AS15-90-12328)
now look at these images:AS15-90-12250(bright dot),AS15-90-12251(bright dot),AS15-90-12254(bright dot,RHC),AS15-90-12256(2 dots),AS15-90-12259(bright dot),AS15-90-12262(bright dot)AS15-90-12264(bright dot),AS15-90-12265(bright dot)AS15-90-12266(4 bright dots)
these images are not lens flare and have been spotted elsewhere,they are UFO phenomena and have been spotted elsewhere on earth(including myself!!,something I won't forget))...they obviously had some friends along the way!!!!!!!!!!!
WELL DONE APOLLO!!!!!!!!

I responded:

Compare with higher resolutions scans:
history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-90-12254HR.jpg
history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-90-12265.jpg
history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-90-12266.jpg
The dots are gone!
I didn't bother to search for all of them. But they sure are a lot clearer than the LPI ones.
I find that just by Googling the AS # I in the IMAGE search 'm given good responses. You can also select the LARGER IMAGES option in Google to get the best scan.

Do you acknowledge that since the 'dots' are not in the original photographs that they are blemishes or the result of inferior prints?

You posted:

back again..
go to Google,type in:Wikipedia,Apollo15,ascent,video
comes up "Apollo Lunar Module-Wikipedia,the free encyclopedia
checkout: Apollo 15 LM takeoff from Rover(video)
should come up with Image:Apollo15 liftoff from the Moon.ogg
now checkout the video
what are the "stars" in the background (2 dots RHS of LM) & (1 dot TLHC)the only light source was the sun...this is on video,my other posting (LPI images) are individual frames on camera!! I find this interesting!!! What do U think?

I responded:

They are spots or dust on the lens possibly. Check this video out:
video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=342374924536746160&q=Apollo+15+Lunar+Module&total=27&start=0&num=10&so=0&type= search&plindex=0

which pans from the left to the right to the LM. This was taken while the astronauts were working around the LM. The spots move with the camera. If they were UFO's they wouldn't keep the same position, and same with stars. Even when the camera zooms in the spots stay in the same position.
The spots are on this video too, which doesn't even show the sky all the time:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5zy0yyWUu5s
They are on this video too...
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p90hITXFtNs&feature=related
and also this one!
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy63iJ4dPb0&feature=related
So no, they are not UFO's or stars.

Count Zero and Jay Utah offered this explanation:

Could the white dots be flaws in the video tube?

More likely. Or a flaw in any of the media used as a frame buffer.
If the image was recorded by pointing another camera at the video monitor...
You mean as in a kinescope? You have to be sure not to confuse that with the ad hoc slow-scan stuff used for Apollo 11.

and wdmundt offered this:

The spots don't change at all when the camera zooms in, so it is probably not anything on the lens. I would guess that they are multiple failures in the pickup tube.

what do U think???

[wdmundt]

Jason is right. It's the cheese shop all over again. He or she is deliberately wasting our time.

[Ginnie]

wdmundt said:

Jason is right. It's the cheese shop all over again. He or she is deliberately wasting our time.

Excuse me, my hearing is off...did you say Jason is right?

[wdmundt]

We only disagree below the "Off Topic" line. Above the line, he and I agree on most things -- except about the value of some of the Star Wars movies.

Edit:

But then I went back and checked the thread and it turns out I was wrong. We actually do agree on the Star Wars movies.

[Ginnie]

Well, this is one thread that should be below the off topic line.

[wdmundt]

Y U say that?

[LunarOrbit]

altair4 said:

I really could go on...but I will be stepping on thin ice!!

I'm afraid you broke through the ice the moment you started yet another off topic thread in this section of the forum after I warned you not to.

You have been banned for 30 days. If you return after that time you had better start respecting the rules or the ban will be made permanent.

I am not going beyond this level! because I don't want 2 get myself or someone else in trouble!!

2 late!! CU l8tr!