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Post by gillianren on Jun 16, 2007 16:40:37 GMT -4
Our precious bodily fluids!
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Post by feelfree222 on Jun 17, 2007 1:20:49 GMT -4
So you are saying that globalization is part of a communist conspiracy? Its more subtile than that.
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Post by antoniocc on Jun 17, 2007 9:01:09 GMT -4
So you are saying that globalization is part of a communist conspiracy? Its more subtile than that. Explain it, then.
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Post by PeterB on Jun 17, 2007 21:14:02 GMT -4
Feelfree said:
So now you oppose the idea of progressive taxation?
What do you support? Flat tax?
The more I read what you and Turbonium say, the more I suspect that your beliefs are diametrically opposed.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 17, 2007 23:07:30 GMT -4
Interestingly a flat tax penalises the lower income earners more than the upper tax brackets. This is why many high income earners want to move to a flat tax system.
It seems that FreeFeree really can't make up his mind if this is a plot to bring about Communism or not. Communism is where the workers take charage and everyone is relatively equal (supposedly) but he keeps on about big Business wanting to be in charge. Under communism, businesses belong to the state, not to private owners. The two cannot meet.
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Post by feelfree222 on Jun 17, 2007 23:26:58 GMT -4
Feelfree said: So now you oppose the idea of progressive taxation? No,even if it is a communist idea i find it excellent. I wanted only pointing that out.
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Post by feelfree222 on Jun 17, 2007 23:44:23 GMT -4
It seems that FreeFeree really can't make up his mind if this is a plot to bring about Communism or not. Communism is where the workers take charage and everyone is relatively equal (supposedly) but he keeps on about big Business wanting to be in charge. Under communism, businesses belong to the state, not to private owners. The two cannot meet. That is right that is not the old and pure Communism I am talking about. That is the WTO. www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wto/Its more subtile than that. Explain it, then. Here the subtility ... Excerpts www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wto/"The World Trade Organization is the most powerful legislative and judicial body in the world. By promoting the "free trade" agenda of multinational corporations above the interests of local communities, working families, and the environment, the WTO has systematically undermined democracy around the world. In the ten years of its existence, WTO panels composed of corporate attorneys have ruled that: the US law protecting sea turtles was a barrier to "free trade"; that US clean air standards and laws protecting dolphins are too; that the European Union law banning hormone-treated beef is illegal. According to the WTO, our democratically elected public officials no longer have the rights to protect the environment and public health. Unlike United Nations treaties, the International Labor Organization conventions, or multilateral environmental agreements, WTO rules can be enforced through sanctions. This gives the WTO more power than any other international body. The WTO's authority even eclipses national governments."
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Post by antoniocc on Jun 20, 2007 14:34:43 GMT -4
It seems that FreeFeree really can't make up his mind if this is a plot to bring about Communism or not. Communism is where the workers take charage and everyone is relatively equal (supposedly) but he keeps on about big Business wanting to be in charge. Under communism, businesses belong to the state, not to private owners. The two cannot meet. That is right that is not the old and pure Communism I am talking about. That is the WTO. www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wto/Here the subtility ... Excerpts www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wto/"The World Trade Organization is the most powerful legislative and judicial body in the world. By promoting the "free trade" agenda of multinational corporations above the interests of local communities, working families, and the environment, the WTO has systematically undermined democracy around the world. In the ten years of its existence, WTO panels composed of corporate attorneys have ruled that: the US law protecting sea turtles was a barrier to "free trade"; that US clean air standards and laws protecting dolphins are too; that the European Union law banning hormone-treated beef is illegal. According to the WTO, our democratically elected public officials no longer have the rights to protect the environment and public health. Unlike United Nations treaties, the International Labor Organization conventions, or multilateral environmental agreements, WTO rules can be enforced through sanctions. This gives the WTO more power than any other international body. The WTO's authority even eclipses national governments." Only a question, who has to enforce those sanctions?
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Post by twinstead on Jun 20, 2007 19:19:52 GMT -4
I was thinking the same thing. Does the WTO have its own military?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 20, 2007 21:09:05 GMT -4
Well let's see..... Australia was told over two years ago that their ban on our apples was illegal and had to be removed..... No-one's made them do it yet....
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Post by feelfree222 on Jun 21, 2007 1:17:41 GMT -4
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Post by Data Cable on Jun 21, 2007 8:45:54 GMT -4
They have a panel (tribunal) who impose economical sanctions. 2nd verse, same as the first. (A little bit louder and a little bit worse) But who enforces those sanctions?
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Post by twinstead on Jun 21, 2007 10:12:41 GMT -4
They have a panel (tribunal) who impose economical sanctions. 2nd verse, same as the first. (A little bit louder and a little bit worse) But who enforces those sanctions? I'll second that because I'm very curious. We are aware the WTO can call for sanctions, but exactly how do they enforce them?
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Post by feelfree222 on Jun 22, 2007 1:06:22 GMT -4
2nd verse, same as the first. (A little bit louder and a little bit worse) But who enforces those sanctions? I'll second that because I'm very curious. We are aware the WTO can call for sanctions, but exactly how do they enforce them? The "how" they impose the sanctions is not well defined. I have not dig that aspect.It seem they can impose a ban on some products from the faulty country.But before that ultimate sanction they have negociation process. www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/disp3_e.htmedit to add The process — Stages in a typical WTO dispute settlement case www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/disp_settlement_cbt_e/c6s5p1_e.htm
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 22, 2007 1:10:31 GMT -4
Well went you figureit out, let them know so they can impose their will on Australia. Our apple growers will thank you.
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