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Post by lionking on Jun 21, 2007 10:46:01 GMT -4
If you follow on what is happening in the ME, there is smething that poses questions. Qatar, the gulf arab state that has the biggest American base, as well as an embassy for Israel, is standing behind Syria and Iran, and didn't vote on the UN tribunal in the UN. It also ccame and stood next to Lahood, the Syrian puppet in lebanon, while other governments in the world were isolating him. Each day that passes proves Qatar to be a definite ally of Syria, Hizbollah, and Iran.
The question that might suggest a conspiracy, is that why would America, the very powerful state, allow this to happen. Qatar can't mess with America, so why doesn't America pressure Qatar to stop what it is doing?
Is America acting behind the scenes on something? Is Qatar a country that fled from the grip of America? anyone who can help me solve this puzzle?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 21, 2007 18:58:22 GMT -4
How about the idea that even though it has a base in the country, the US doesn't actually tell the Qatar government what to do?
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Post by lionking on Jun 22, 2007 5:15:51 GMT -4
if there is something that can threaten the US interests in the region, then, the US would deffinitely tell Qatar what to do, or threaten it with something, as they do to Iran.
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Post by twinstead on Jun 22, 2007 8:02:05 GMT -4
if there is something that can threaten the US interests in the region, then, the US would deffinitely tell Qatar what to do, or threaten it with something, as they do to Iran. I would imagine that if telling Qatar what to do or threatening it would threaten the ability to have its biggest base in the region there, the US would probably not try to push the issue too much. |
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Post by lenbrazil on Jun 22, 2007 9:47:34 GMT -4
No need for a CT nearly 50 years after Castro took over the US still has a military base in Cuba and there is no .signs of it going anywhere in the foreseeable future.
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Post by lionking on Jun 23, 2007 16:45:23 GMT -4
Is Cuba really harming the US interests, as Qatar is doing by helping Syria and Iran (for example, they spoke to Lahood that America wants to isolate, they also didn't vote for the UN tribunal)
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Post by lenbrazil on Jun 23, 2007 17:09:22 GMT -4
Is Cuba really harming the US interests, as Qatar is doing by helping Syria and Iran (for example, they spoke to Lahood that America wants to isolate, they also didn't vote for the UN tribunal) It has been US policy to try to bring around "regime change" in Cuba since 1959 or 60. This included assassination attempts, an armed invasion and support to armed rebel groups The US and Cuba fought wars by proxy in South and Central America and Africa in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Qatar is probablly obliged by treaty to maintain the base. The US might figure pulling out would make thinks worse and would be incrediblly expensive. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 24, 2007 1:37:09 GMT -4
if there is something that can threaten the US interests in the region, then, the US would deffinitely tell Qatar what to do, or threaten it with something, as they do to Iran. Not really, and even if they did, Qatar isn't under any more obligation to do what the US says than Iran is. When the US does put pressure on other countries, it generally does it pretty openly and obviously. The US isn't known for it's subtlety |
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Post by frenat on Jun 24, 2007 2:35:42 GMT -4
Qatar is probablly obliged by treaty to maintain the base. The US might figure pulling out would make thinks worse and would be incrediblly expensive. I don't think so to the first part. Qatar could kick them out at any time for any reason (although they would also have to kick out multiple other countries as the base is run by the US but houses multiple other UN members that are involved in theater). As such the US is likely to put up with a lot from Qatar. There would be a lot of people planes and infrastructure to move if they had to and not really much other places to go. |
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Post by frenat on Jun 24, 2007 2:38:27 GMT -4
In response to the OP, who said
yes, Qatar could very well mess with America. All they have to do is say they want the US out. That is a very big reason for the US to not pressure Qatar.
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Post by lionking on Jun 24, 2007 6:30:49 GMT -4
but Qatar has fuel. it wouldn't sell its fuel if it lost a big market like America. besides, america can create troubles for it.
maybe what you say is true. maybe Qatar wants to bother KSA and take the other side in Lebanon while not facing much pressure from America. but it is hard to believe that America can't do anything with Qatar if it started to threaten its position. they not even denounced the Qatari restrain from voting on the UN tribunal.
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Post by Data Cable on Jun 24, 2007 11:12:17 GMT -4
but Qatar has fuel. it wouldn't sell its fuel if it lost a big market like America. Oh, I'm absolutely certain that if the US stopped buying oil from Qatar, they could easily find somewhere else in the world to sell it. |
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Post by frenat on Jun 24, 2007 11:24:09 GMT -4
but Qatar has fuel. it wouldn't sell its fuel if it lost a big market like America. As already mentioned, there are plenty of other markets for fuel. Qatar won't be hurting any. What is america going to do if Qatar tells them to move out? Face it, Qatar has the upper hand and the US doesn't want to piss them off. It is not without precedence either. Just last year, Iceland told the US to move out. They gave the US such short notice that some of those that had moved there for a 1 year short tour didn't get credit because they couldn't make it to 6 months of it. |
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Post by lionking on Jun 24, 2007 16:05:42 GMT -4
whatever it is, I hope this playing on all ropes ends soon. I am not comfortable to their siding with the opposition. there are even rumours that they are helping some fanatic troops in Lebanon.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 24, 2007 17:45:41 GMT -4
The US doesn't actually get a lot of Oil from Qatar. in 2006 they imported an average of 2 thousand barrels a day from them, and that was mostly because they received a large shipment in July. Other then that is was pretty much zero the rest of the year. |
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