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Post by lazarusty on Jun 23, 2007 0:49:36 GMT -4
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Post by turbonium on Jun 23, 2007 3:50:19 GMT -4
Thanks for the link, Lazarusty. It's an excellent report.
Not that Lone-Nutters will ever think anyone but Oswald did it, just like the Warren Commission said he did.
Deathbed confessions? I can already hear them saying they're "worthless", "not the slightest evidence ", etc.
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Post by gillianren on Jun 23, 2007 7:56:46 GMT -4
Oh, for the love of Gods. Not the three tramps again.
And you're right about one thing; I wouldn't trust E. Howard Hunt as far as I could throw the Schoolbook Depository.
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Post by donnieb on Jun 23, 2007 13:33:29 GMT -4
The "three tramps" have all been identified. None of them was E. Howard Hunt. www.jfk-online.com/jfk100tramps.htmlI don't know much about Hunt's son, but if his father knew he had conspiracist tendencies he may have given him the "confession" as a last treat. More likely, though, Hunt Sr. was making a final attempt to boost his own notoriety.
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Post by etac on Jun 23, 2007 22:26:06 GMT -4
Thanks for the link, Lazarusty. It's an excellent report. Not that Lone-Nutters will ever think anyone but Oswald did it, just like the Warren Commission said he did. Deathbed confessions? I can already hear them saying they're "worthless", "not the slightest evidence ", etc. When the "deathbed confessions" don't jibe with any of the other evidence, include theories that have long been debunked, and generally lack credibility there is no reason to accept them. This one is no exception. The kink of deathbed confession that would turn things around would be something like Gene Kranz admitting that Apollo was a hoax. Ain't likely.
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Post by lazarusty on Jun 24, 2007 0:13:32 GMT -4
If he did, it wouln't be reported. It would be covered up.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jun 24, 2007 0:22:33 GMT -4
Sort of like how Hunt's confession was covered up? Oh wait... it wasn't. I guess that means his confession wasn't legit, otherwise we wouldn't have heard about it.
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Post by etac on Jun 24, 2007 11:08:47 GMT -4
If he did, it wouln't be reported. It would be covered up. And how do you know that would happen? You just assume that's the case since it jibes with your conspiracist mindset. In any case, the point I was trying to make is that a believable confession would come from someone in the middle of it all (such as Kranz and Apollo) and even then it would require some significant verification before I would accept it as valid. As to the Hunt confession, see Tweedledee's comments below.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 24, 2007 18:00:39 GMT -4
Actually even is Kranz did say Apollo was Hoaxed on his deathbed, it still wouldn't prove that it was, not unless he gave enough details to allow us to track down the how it was done, and that senario then become more likely than that they really did it. In this case, the "confession" suffers from the fact it doesn't jibe with reality. That we knew that Hunt was not in Dallas at the time of the assassination and so the whole thing stands out as false. In the same way if Kranz claimed Apollo was fake, and then used the same conspiracy arguments that have been shown to be false, it wouldn't hold water either.
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Post by lenbrazil on Jun 25, 2007 15:32:03 GMT -4
Do we even know for sure that it really is Howard Hunt on the tape and not a hoax? Does anybody know what his voice sounded like?
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Post by turbonium on Jul 5, 2007 1:39:57 GMT -4
... we knew that Hunt was not in Dallas at the time of the assassination..... No, we don't know that. There were witnesses who said he was in Dallas, and others who said he wasn't.
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Post by turbonium on Jul 5, 2007 2:01:06 GMT -4
Do we even know for sure that it really is Howard Hunt on the tape and not a hoax? Does anybody know what his voice sounded like? The confession tape was apparently released by his son. It should be easy enough to verify whether or not he is the son of E. Howard Hunt.. One would think it quite likely that other recordings do exist somewhere (of Hunt speaking), considering he came into high profile because of his involvement with Watergate. Since the confession tape has only come out recently, it may take some time before we know for certain whether or not it's authentic.
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Post by turbonium on Jul 5, 2007 4:02:27 GMT -4
Apparently, the confession was made on video, which would most likely prove it was genuine.
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Post by lenbrazil on Jul 5, 2007 12:30:45 GMT -4
Apparently, the confession was made on video, which would most likely prove it was genuine. According to the Posion Planet article it was an audio tape, if you have evidence to the contary let us know. That makes it a bit suspect if he wanted to 'come clean' why not do it on video?
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Post by gillianren on Jul 5, 2007 17:56:03 GMT -4
That makes it a bit suspect if he wanted to 'come clean' why not do it on video? Or national TV, like Mark Felt.
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