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Post by gillianren on Sept 8, 2006 21:02:22 GMT -4
Which was also irresponsible, and had I any power in the field, I'd've taken that kid away, too. |
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 10, 2006 3:35:43 GMT -4
I think we should not rush to judge. Has anyone seen Steve's explaination?
I have to admit, that photo looks pretty sick.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 10, 2006 3:37:22 GMT -4
I'm sure the world crocodile association is very disappointed one of its members didn't eat the annoying little bastard first. I am. wow. Was this guy banned for this comment? |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 10, 2006 5:34:10 GMT -4
No he was banned because LO told him to stop acting childish and rude, and he replied with a rather kindergarten inspired and rude way.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 10, 2006 12:35:02 GMT -4
No he was banned because LO told him to stop acting childish and rude, and he replied with a rather kindergarten inspired and rude way. He and his dorm mates must have had a bet on how quickly he could get banned. Personally, I love annoying little bastards unless they are old enough to drive. |
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 10, 2006 15:12:08 GMT -4
I just had a thought.
Do you think it might be possible for Sting Rays to pick up television broadcasts and that this is what led to Steve Irwin's death. Irwin just happened to run across a sting ray that was no fan.
;p
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 13, 2006 20:49:28 GMT -4
Bill Maher said on his HBO show last night:
"I am tired of people saying it was a freak accient. They are called sting rays for a reason. They are not called hug rays"
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 13, 2006 20:54:19 GMT -4
I am tired of people saying it was a freak accient.
Well considering until then only 2 other people had been killed by a stingray in the entire documented history of Australia, I'd call that a freak accident. Sure Stingrays sting on occasion, but most people end up with a very very sore arm or leg for the next couple of months, they don't end up dead.
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Post by lunatic on Sept 14, 2006 2:22:45 GMT -4
This guy took some incredible risks for the sake of TV ratings, he was a good entertainer in an annoying kind of way but this does not mean he deserved to die.
Stingrays are for the best part harmless most stings occur because they are stepped on in the shallows and are no worse than a wasp sting.
I am the owner of a dive centre and we cater to snorkellers too, I have been diving for 22 years and this is the first time I have ever heard of a stingray sting being fatal.
It is almost ironic that he toyed with salt water crocs that are one of the most dangerous creatures on the planet with out being eaten!
Then to fall victim to an essentially harmless animal.
There is no excuse for taking a one year old baby into a crocs pen, very irresponsible indeed reminded me a bit of wacko jacko holding his baby out of the window for a photo opportunity.
RIP
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 14, 2006 3:32:42 GMT -4
I am not a fan of Bill Maher.
He only looks smart because he does all he can to have guests who are less intelligent than him and on the same page as he is politically.
Once he filled in for Larry King and he had conservatives who were brighter than he was on the show and Maher had to keep changing the subject to keep looking like a dolt. Maher started preaching that Hiroshima was a terrorist act and when the guests made a compelling argument that he was wrong he quickly changed the subject.
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Post by lunatic on Sept 20, 2006 6:46:17 GMT -4
Who is Bill Maher who cares if you are not a fan of his and WTF does it have to do with Steve Irwin?
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 20, 2006 7:20:18 GMT -4
There was a large memorial service for Steve at the Australia Zoo. His daughter read a eulogy she wrote for him
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Post by Jason Thompson on Sept 20, 2006 8:19:31 GMT -4
Who is Bill Maher who cares if you are not a fan of his and WTF does it have to do with Steve Irwin?
Read up a couple of posts above yours and you'll see that Bill Maher made a comment on his show about Steve Irwin's death. That's why he's mentioned here.
You don't read the threads you contribute to much, do you?
I have been diving for 22 years and this is the first time I have ever heard of a stingray sting being fatal.
I'd love to dive with rays and the like some day. If I can get over an abject fear of being immersed in water, that is....
As far as I know the only recorded fatalities from stingray stings resulted from a sting to the chest or abdomen. Given that a stingray sting is about a foot long and barbed it would seem that these deaths resulted as much from the wound as the venom, if not more so. In the case of Steve Irwin he was plain unlucky to be stung right through the heart. Given that it wouldn't have mattered if it was a stingray or a man with a knife.
There is no excuse for taking a one year old baby into a crocs pen, very irresponsible
I don't know. I think Irwin probably knew exactly what he was doing and I am sure that if he thought the baby was in any danger he would never have done it. Unfortunately I think his media sense let him down. However much he knows he's in control he has to have the audience believing that too, or else he'll be in trouble. And that's exactly what happened.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 20, 2006 12:37:47 GMT -4
I think Irwin probably knew exactly what he was doing and I am sure that if he thought the baby was in any danger he would never have done it.
If he had thought he was in any danger he wouldn't have swam over that stingray. That's the problem... sometimes dangers are unpredictable no matter how experienced and professional you are. The best precaution he could have taken would have beeb to keep his baby out of the pen. I'm sure the baby looked like a much more interesting meal to the croc than the stuff Irwin was holding in his other hand.
Anyhow, I agree Irwin did a lot of good and he was a great person. I just think he should have kept the risk taking to himself and any other adults who knew the risks.
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Post by Jason Thompson on Sept 20, 2006 17:02:11 GMT -4
If he had thought he was in any danger he wouldn't have swam over that stingray.
I'd guess that was a case of him thinking the danger was minimal and being prepared. I'm certain the crew on the boat would have had medical supplies to treat him for a sting. Stingray venom, being a large globular protein, can be destroyed by nothing more complicated than hot water.
Just as with his dealings with crocodiles, alligators, cassowaries, snakes etc. the chances of injury may be high but with proper preparation they can be managed. The chances of any of these things being instantly fatal was very low. This is just a particularly graphic demonstration of the fact that a very low probability is not the same as a zero probability.
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