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Post by Ginnie on Jun 21, 2008 0:08:23 GMT -4
Excellent!
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Post by Ginnie on Jun 28, 2008 9:52:02 GMT -4
I just saw a commercial for "In the Shadow of the Moon" on the Canadian Discovery Channel... it's going to be airing June 29th. There's an Apollo 13 special on at eight just before it... ;D
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Post by Ginnie on Jun 29, 2008 22:42:52 GMT -4
I just saw a commercial for "In the Shadow of the Moon" on the Canadian Discovery Channel... it's going to be airing June 29th. Watching the show now. If any person watches this and still thinks the Moon Landings were hoaxed, then I'm seriously afraid that they will never be convinced otherwise.
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Post by laurel on Jun 29, 2008 22:51:06 GMT -4
The Discovery Channel cut some parts out, though. Like the part about Apollo 13 and the part where Michael Collins was reading the "In Event of Moon Disaster" speech.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jun 29, 2008 23:09:17 GMT -4
Watching the show now. If any person watches this and still thinks the Moon Landings were hoaxed, then I'm seriously afraid that they will never be convinced otherwise. Yeah, I don't know how anyone could watch that documentary and still believe the astronauts are liars who were only following a script. They were all affected emotionally and/or spiritually by the experience of going to the Moon... if they are acting then give them all Oscars right now. Edgar Mitchell has some far out theories, but listening to him describe his experience just makes it clear that he really did go to the Moon.
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Post by laurel on Jun 29, 2008 23:38:30 GMT -4
They were all affected emotionally and/or spiritually by the experience of going to the Moon... if they are acting then give them all Oscars right now. I was telling someone about this documentary a few weeks ago, and I said to her, "They went to the Moon over thirty years ago, but to watch them talk about it, you would think it was yesterday."
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jul 4, 2008 18:37:30 GMT -4
I just got it from Wal-Mart for $14.96. So far, I've watched only the interviews and stories. Funny one regarding Apollo 12, which I'll put in the "Humor in Space" section.
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Post by Kiwi on Jul 12, 2008 4:56:26 GMT -4
...it opens in Palmerston North's Cinema Gold tomorrow, Thursday 22 May... Just for the record, In the Shadow of the Moon ran from Thursday 22 May until Wednesday 9 July. Cinema Gold has small, boutique theatres with about 40 seats, but seven weeks sounds, to me, like quite a long run for a documentary. The movie got a good review in the local newspaper. Let's hope it convinced a few fence-sitters who were wondering about a hoax.
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Post by Ginnie on Jul 12, 2008 21:45:21 GMT -4
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Post by Czero 101 on Jul 12, 2008 22:50:06 GMT -4
Well... aside from the fact that the link you've provided has "Apollo 15" in it, and the page it goes to has "Apollo 15" on it, towards the end of the video you can see Hadley Rille come into frame. There's another version of that video available at the ALSJ here: www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15ascent.mpgCz
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Post by Ginnie on Jul 13, 2008 19:14:35 GMT -4
Well... aside from the fact that the link you've provided has "Apollo 15" in it, and the page it goes to has "Apollo 15" on it, towards the end of the video you can see Hadley Rille come into frame. There's another version of that video available at the ALSJ here: www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15ascent.mpgCz CZ, I think the "Apollo 15"in the link and page refers to my actual search request, not the video in question. And I can't trust youtube. I was 90% sure it was Apollo 15, but needed confirmation. Actually, this is what I'm trying to do: Combine a satellite shot of the Apollo 15 landing sites, and a close up picture of the landing sites taken from the ascent stage after it blasted off. Here are the two pictures (scaled down for size reasons): That bright dot in the lower left is where the LM is. I'm trying to figure out the orientation of this picture, and the scale that it would be needed to fit into a closeup of the other picture. I want to combine the two. I'm not doing this to "fake" a picture of the LM showing up on the the first picture, but purely for self entertainment reasons - just to see what it would look like if we had the resolution right now to photograph it.
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Post by Czero 101 on Jul 13, 2008 21:10:54 GMT -4
Actually, this is what I'm trying to do: Combine a satellite shot of the Apollo 15 landing sites, and a close up picture of the landing sites taken from the ascent stage after it blasted off. Here are the two pictures (scaled down for size reasons): That bright dot in the lower left is where the LM is. I'm trying to figure out the orientation of this picture, and the scale that it would be needed to fit into a closeup of the other picture. I want to combine the two. I'm not doing this to "fake" a picture of the LM showing up on the the first picture, but purely for self entertainment reasons - just to see what it would look like if we had the resolution right now to photograph it. One problem right off the bat is that your first picture is upside down, at least in the sense that "North" is pointing to the bottom. I've rotated the image and added an arrow that points to the landing site, and indicates "North" (roughly): As for orienting the image, check out the maps, pics and illustrations at the ALSJ here: www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/images15.html#MapsSpecifically, look at this pre-flight illustration of the landing area: www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15.s71_33433hr.jpgTo put your second pic in some kind of rough perspective, I have indicated approximate "North" on it as well... Cz
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Post by Ginnie on Jul 14, 2008 21:47:30 GMT -4
Thanks CZ!
I knew I would have to rotate it a bit, but in GIMP I could only rotate in 90 degree increments. I'll check out the rest of the software in my system...
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Post by Ginnie on Jul 14, 2008 23:03:55 GMT -4
So, this is what I'm working with right now. I did find a photo of Hadley Rille with a distance scale on it, and it is labelled which makes it helpful. CZ, is it possible that your arrow on the Youtubepic was actually pointing in north/ northwestern direction?
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Post by Czero 101 on Jul 15, 2008 1:51:31 GMT -4
CZ, is it possible that your arrow on the Youtubepic was actually pointing in north/ northwestern direction? Oh, its definitely possible. I did say it was a rough estimate. Using Google Moon, I got a bit of a closer estimate (and you'll probably find more information there for this project you are undertaking): The dark line with the black triangle "flag" extending up from #1 (landing site) indicates Lunar North. On this image, its pointing roughly 2 degrees West from "straight up". The Blue arrow marks the direction from the LM to the ALSEP site (#12) and its pointing roughly 51 degrees West (or if you prefer, its on a bearing of 309 degrees) For the arrow in the YouTube pic, I did a rough estimate based on landmarks and the direction of the tracks leading towards the ALSEP and pointed the arrow at 70 degrees, which would translate out to a bearing of 290 degrees. Here's the YouTube pic with my arrow and rotated 70 degrees left (or West if you prefer): And here's a composite pic of the Google Moon pic, and the rotated YouTube pic: After compensating for the approximate 2 degree Westward "error" (for lack of a better term) in the Google Moon pic, enlarging the Google Moon pic by 145% to get the scale approximately similar, then drawing the Cyan arrow from the centre of the LM to the approximate centre of the ALSEP site, the margin of error between the two pics is about 7 degrees, which is a third of the difference between the 51 degrees of the Google Earth (after compensation, 49 degrees) and the 70 degrees of my original YouTube pic. I suppose the resultant 14 degree total difference could be caused by errors in the accuracy of the Google Moon pic and possibly also by the fact that I really just guessed at the 70 degrees for the first YouTube pic anyway... Of course, striving for accuracy while using such "crude" images is rather difficult... But I was in the ballpark, essentially... Cz
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