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Post by laurel on Sept 26, 2008 23:32:29 GMT -4
Another odd YouTube moment: I don't remember the user's name, but they were saying that NASA's animation of the Phoenix landing on Mars was faked. Um, so what? NASA never claimed the animation was real! If I remember correctly, it was released before Phoenix was even launched.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Sept 27, 2008 7:18:30 GMT -4
Sounds like something JarrahWhite would say. His 'Marsfaker' videos are really a hoot. I wonder if he realized he misspelled 'Phoenix'.
Rocky and Straydog continue the spigot of "teh stoopid".
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Post by raven on Sept 29, 2008 9:43:58 GMT -4
If the gold visor was so important, why does Jack Schmitt on Apollo 17 spend so much time with it up?
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Post by laurel on Sept 29, 2008 13:17:01 GMT -4
Because he accidentally scratched it and so it was hard for him to see with it down. He and the CapCom talked about this during the third EVA at 165:01:54.
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Post by JayUtah on Sept 29, 2008 13:37:57 GMT -4
Yes, the darn thing about Lexan is that it's tough for impact resistance and very clear for optical transmissivity, but soft as heck under abrasion. You could wrestle an astronaut to the ground and pound on his visor with a ball-peen hammer and it won't break. But rub it with some dirt and you've effectively removed is ability to see through it.
It should be understood that ordinary Lexan is already opaque to ultraviolet. The coating was for attenuation in the visible bands. They didn't want the astronauts blinded by bright visible light.
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Post by gillianren on Sept 29, 2008 14:56:01 GMT -4
I would love to see that happen in a movie somewhere. You know, where there could be an evil astronaut.
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Post by Data Cable on Sept 30, 2008 4:46:44 GMT -4
You could wrestle an astronaut to the ground and pound on his visor with a ball-peen hammer Don't give Bart ideas, Jay.
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Post by raven on Sept 30, 2008 16:13:49 GMT -4
You could wrestle an astronaut to the ground and pound on his visor with a ball-peen hammer Don't give Bart ideas, Jay. He he, don't give ME ideas about Bart (sans visor). He he. Thanks for the help guys.
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Post by dwight on Oct 4, 2008 3:57:45 GMT -4
The latest YT claptrap I have had the honor of reading is as follows "Freeze-frame and slow motion have only become accessible to the masses since the internet, therefore only now is Apollo getting proper scrutiny. On top of that as most Americans worked 50 hour week they just didnt have the time available to them to analyse the footage."
What the?
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Post by AtomicDog on Oct 4, 2008 8:21:44 GMT -4
When did Betamax hit the market again? 1975?
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Post by Ginnie on Oct 4, 2008 9:16:25 GMT -4
I remember a videotape machine at my school in 1971 or so but I don't know if you could freeze frame or fast forward with it.
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Post by JayUtah on Oct 4, 2008 12:26:23 GMT -4
You've been able to freeze-frame kinescopes since Edison, and that's how most of us learned about Apollo in the 1970s. Photo analysts have always been able to freeze-frame. The only people who are just now getting that ability are the basement-dwelling self-proclaimed "experts" who see UFOs, ghosts, and wire glints everywhere.
People are working more hours these days, not fewer. At least I am.
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Post by gillianren on Oct 4, 2008 13:03:09 GMT -4
I'm pretty sure it's not just you, Jay. Now, I am not working more, but I'm also legally crazy and broken, so I don't have to. But I believe the average number of work hours in the US has gone up.
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Post by JayUtah on Oct 4, 2008 14:08:08 GMT -4
Well, Gillian, you're one of the sanest people I know.
I think my principal objection to the insinuation from YouTube is that authentication or falsification is the proper bailiwick of the blue-collar joes who are supposedly working fewer hours now and who can now press pause on their computers. The copious application of ignorance is not an assurance of truth. But it's almost an article of faith among conspiracists that the less training one has in a field, the more likely he is to know the truth about it. Odd.
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Post by dickshane on Oct 4, 2008 14:23:48 GMT -4
On top of that as most Americans worked 50 hour week they just didnt have the time available to them to analyse the footage. Hilarious. They generalise so easily from their own bedrooms or basements out into the world... I've generally found that the majority of people seem to acknowledge that others know more than they themselves do about certain subjects, and not because they are unheroic, or 'sheep', or 'afraid of the truth', or scared to 'think outside the box', but because they are intelligent: intelligence has awareness of its own limits. They are intelligent enough to recognise when others genuinely know more than they do. It's only when you're a bit dumb (is there really any other way of describing it?) that you are confident of your own little, independent version of the world in the face of all the evidence and in spite of others who clearly know far more about such things than you do. This you-tube stuff is merely the militancy of the ignorant.
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