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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 21:05:53 GMT -4
What people here, ie the debunkers (ie the really confused) people do not understand is the simple fact that the whole Apollo Prject had nothing to do with the science of the ''moon" or space. All it had to do with was the "intercontinental ballistic missile" or ICBMs project that was the only important thing at that time. Evelrything else was total BS. There is plenty of evidence for this conclusion but nobody gives a crap at this point, including me.
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Post by BertL on Jul 21, 2009 21:07:45 GMT -4
Obvious trolling here.
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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 21:13:49 GMT -4
How so?
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Post by BertL on Jul 21, 2009 21:24:32 GMT -4
You provide a couple of claims without anything to substantiate it (because apparently nobody gives a crap at this point), apparently pulled out of thin air. Based on this, and on you suddenly bringing up this whole new topic while still being in discussion about something else here, I'd say you're doing this either to yank on some people's chains, or to draw attention away from the whole "no dust on Mars" thing.
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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 22:23:44 GMT -4
OK lets get this on the right track. My claims about ICBM tech have nothing to do with dust on Mars or the moon. The fact remains that there is no dust on Mars or on the moon due to lack of atmoshperic pressure or atmosphere on those planets. You can easily see that from photos of the Mars landing site (two years later)
What I was saying is that it is easily replicatable on Earth at more or less 90% vacuum. Nothing more
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Post by Bob B. on Jul 21, 2009 22:26:12 GMT -4
Apollo Prject had nothing to do with the science of the ''moon" or space. All it had to do with was the "intercontinental ballistic missile" or ICBMs project that was the only important thing at that time. Apollo had nothing to do with America's ICBM programs. The ICBM programs, namely Atlas and Titan, were completed and operational before Apollo ever got off the ground. Nothing developed specifically for Apollo was used as a weapons system.
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Post by Bob B. on Jul 21, 2009 22:34:15 GMT -4
The fact remains that there is no dust on Mars Your persistent denial doesn't make it true. The movement of dust in Mars' atmosphere is a well known and documented fact. Seasonal dust storms have been observed for a hundred years. You can easily see that from photos of the Mars landing site (two years later) There aren't any photos from the landing sites two years later. The only vehicles to survive that long are the rovers Spirit and Opportunity, and they are no where near their original landing sites.
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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 22:48:35 GMT -4
Bob it had everything to do with ICBMs. The only reason Russians led the space race was that they had the ICBM technology from Germany which allowed them to clear Earths gravity, while Americans only had short range rocket technology with Werner V Braun. So that was the real reason for the space race to show Russians that we can reach them with the nukes.
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Post by Bob B. on Jul 21, 2009 22:56:33 GMT -4
Bob it had everything to do with ICBMs. The only reason Russians led the space race was that they had the ICBM technology from Germany which allowed them to clear Earths gravity, while Americans only had short range rocket technology with Werner V Braun. So that was the real reason for the space race to show Russians that we can reach them with the nukes. The early space race was about ICBMs, but that's not what you said. You said "the Apollo Project". Please stop changing the argument in midstream.
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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 23:06:56 GMT -4
Bob everything was about that back then, the nuclear testing and delivery systems and satellite technology, it was all about that. Comon. Bottom line there was no other reason to go to the moon or to space period. There isnt a good reason to do it now either. Thats why Russians landed a lunar probe there remotely controlled. Get it?
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Post by Bob B. on Jul 21, 2009 23:17:04 GMT -4
Apollo was about flexing America's economic muscle to show the world that democracy and capitalism was a better system than Soviet communism. It was not about ICBMs because we already had our ICBMs. Every Apollo mission was launched on a Saturn rocket, which was never built as or deployed as a ICBM.
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Post by Bob B. on Jul 21, 2009 23:21:52 GMT -4
Bottom line there was no other reason to go to the moon or to space period. There isnt a good reason to do it now either. You mean other than for communications, weather forecasting, surveillance, GPS, etc., etc., etc.
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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 23:31:26 GMT -4
You don't need people to do any of that
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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 23:35:13 GMT -4
What happened to my last post?
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Post by rush on Jul 21, 2009 23:36:17 GMT -4
Do we have a screening going on here?
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