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Post by fiveonit on Sept 19, 2009 19:58:25 GMT -4
This video has been up for several months and is not my creation. I just post this here so that others can have a look see. I do applaud the author for being more civil with Jarrah than I could ever be. We all know that Jarrah twists things around and can't seem to get his facts straight, but seriously - could he be more wrong?? If may be worth while to read the comments that his followers post after the initial posting. It's pretty sad. Notice how NONE of them stay on topic. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdCIGZRjlJM&feature=channel_page |
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Post by rob260259 on Sept 20, 2009 5:27:58 GMT -4
Thanks for the info Fiveonit. I have been around on YT for a year or two now and yes, I do my best, but sometimes it's very hard not to shout some nasty things to the 'guy from downunder' and stay a bit polite. And indeed, you are right, most of his 'followers' (like Straydog and Greenmagoos) are getting upset easily and start insulting within a few posts, forgetting the topic.
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Post by tkw251070 on Sept 21, 2009 17:31:26 GMT -4
It seems svector and Jarrah have locked horns.  If you want to take a look, seems svector is giving our Australian friend a bit of a mauling over what was the 198th day of 1969. If you don't know the history, you need to watch the video. According to Jarrah, the 198th day of 1969 depends on how you count the days. Even by Jarrah's back pedalling standards, this one is quite unbelievable.  I make it 378 back pedals by Jarrah, or 377 depending on how you count them.  TK |
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Post by gonetoplaid on Sept 21, 2009 18:24:35 GMT -4
Poor Jarrah. In a couple of weeks the new LRO photos of the Apollo landing sites will put the final nail in the coffin for the moon landing hoax theory.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Sept 21, 2009 18:54:13 GMT -4
Nah. He's just going to claim that they've been Photoshopped or otherwise buggered with. There's no stopping a mind closed that tightly.
Fred
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Post by tkw251070 on Sept 21, 2009 19:21:35 GMT -4
Nah. He's just going to claim that they've been Photoshopped or otherwise buggered with. There's no stopping a mind closed that tightly. Fred Sad, but true... |
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Post by HeadLikeARock (was postbaguk) on Sept 21, 2009 19:44:51 GMT -4
If thousands of hi-res images from the surface of the moon don't suffice, then ones from an altitude of 50km will similarly be scornfully dismissed.
It's great for people who know Apollo happened, but for the conspiracists... it's just all part of the great deception.
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Post by Kiwi on Sept 22, 2009 7:04:36 GMT -4
...svector is giving our Australian friend a bit of a mauling over what was the 198th day of 1969. Aha! Is that about these three scenes in Sibrel's "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon"? 0:33:02 Apollo 11 — View of earth and crew — GMT — 198:01:15 to 198:01:30 — Year 1969 0:33:03 Apollo 11 — LM checkout and observation of CM — GMT — 199:21:07 to 199:21:33 — Year 1969 0:33:05 Apollo 11 — Lunar observation — GMT — 200:20:21 to 200:20:29 — Year 1969 I can't watch an online video with my dialup connection, so can someone please inform us about what's happening? I was going to ask a question here to see of someone knows exactly what the figures mean. |
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Post by tedward on Sept 22, 2009 7:52:30 GMT -4
The video shows part of Mr Whites video trumpeting day 198 as July 18 and the newspaper printing a still from the video but that the paper was printed before the filming. If that makes sense. Or rather it must have been filmed before hand and released to the press earlier than it should have. I think that is what I read from it.
Anyway, its about day numbers and Mr White +co trying to rewrite how time works and saying "nothing to see, move along".
Using iCal on the Mac. Months and days.
Jan 31
Feb 28
Mar 31
Apr 30
May 31
Jun 30
Jul 31
So, up to June =181 days. Add 18 and that is 199. So day 198 would be 17th?
Opsy.
Back peddling and defence from the usual suspects is astounding. Its almost as embarrassing as watching your folks dance at a wedding.
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Sept 22, 2009 16:45:34 GMT -4
You could calculate it, or you can cheat and look it up. www.fs.fed.us/raws/book/julian.shtmlOrdinal date is also sometimes known as "RADAY" or "radio day" from back when shortwave/morse code/teletype communication was state-of-the-art. |
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Post by frenat on Sept 22, 2009 19:14:04 GMT -4
You can also use www.timeanddate.comIf he did use that site or a similar one, I think I see what he may have done. One of the areas on timeanddate.com allows you to specify a date and add a certain number of days. If he put in January 1st and added 198 days he would end up with the 199th day. The correct thing to do of course would be to put in December 31st and add 198 days which would of course give the right answer of July 17th. |
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Post by fiveonit on Sept 22, 2009 19:55:59 GMT -4
Thanks Gnomon and frenat.
Does anyone know of any Government agency (anywhere) that would time stamp something with GMT and then start numbering the days with Jan 1st as day ZERO?? Or perhaps just pick their own proprietary day numbering scheme? Seems a bit silly to me.
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Post by tkw251070 on Sept 23, 2009 3:37:58 GMT -4
Thanks Gnomon and frenat. Does anyone know of any Government agency (anywhere) that would time stamp something with GMT and then start numbering the days with Jan 1st as day ZERO?? Or perhaps just pick their own proprietary day numbering scheme? Seems a bit silly to me. Yes. It appears the recognised convention is to refer to Jan 1st as Day 1 and not Day 0, and there is an historic precedent. Still, according to Jarrah, it depends on how one counts, and I guess NASA decided to count differently to the rest of the world.  Mind you, when it comes to counting, Jarrah does not have a track record to boast about. This is the man who thinks 150% of 0.5 is 1, and then in defence of his error increased the Apollo film footage by a factor of 1.5, and then reduced it by 2/3 to prove it looked the same. Well done Jarrah, you've just shown 1=1. I don't trust Jarrah with counting, much like I don't trust him with physics, chemistry, geology, photography, engineering, astronomy, history, philosophy... I have to go to work. TK |
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Post by Mr Gorsky on Sept 23, 2009 6:12:47 GMT -4
Thanks Gnomon and frenat. Does anyone know of any Government agency (anywhere) that would time stamp something with GMT and then start numbering the days with Jan 1st as day ZERO?? Or perhaps just pick their own proprietary day numbering scheme? Seems a bit silly to me. I'm not quite sure what you are saying here ... are you saying that NASA uses January 1st as day zero, because that really isn't the case. By my reckoning, using January 1st as day 1, July 17th is the 198th day of the year. Using the time and date site, you would need to start with December 31st because that is day zero. January 1st would be day 1, as it is 1 day after December 31st, and January 31st would be day 31 as it is 31 days after December 31st. Or am I misunderstanding something here? |
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Post by fiveonit on Sept 23, 2009 9:03:25 GMT -4
NO... I'm saying that's exactly what they DON'T do. If Jarrah is trying to imply that "...it depends on how you count" then he better start coming up with some examples of people/agencies that count days in that manner or he's going to end up looking like a complete ass.
Oops.... Too Late!!
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