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Post by shashankx17 on Sept 18, 2009 11:47:50 GMT -4
Many unmanned missions to the moon took place after lunar landings by many countries .why didn't any of them take a picture of the remains of apollo missions on the moon?or did they ?i have not seen one?
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Post by laurel on Sept 18, 2009 11:50:16 GMT -4
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Post by shashankx17 on Sept 18, 2009 12:47:09 GMT -4
Bill kaysing said that he will never say a word again about the hoax if he is shown the remains of the apollo missions by a powerful telescope or by other means, was he alive when these pictures were taken by the LRO?
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Post by laurel on Sept 18, 2009 13:04:31 GMT -4
No. He died in 2005. The LRO images were taken this year.
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Post by drewid on Sept 18, 2009 16:24:47 GMT -4
And the LRO has just dropped into it's close orbit a few days ago, so better images to come.
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Post by Ginnie on Sept 18, 2009 16:34:05 GMT -4
... makes me giddy just thinking about it...
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Post by Kiwi on Sept 19, 2009 2:16:48 GMT -4
Many unmanned missions to the moon took place after lunar landings by many countries .why didn't any of them take a picture of the remains of apollo missions on the moon? Have you thought about why they might or might not want to photograph the landing sites? Moonlanding-hoax beliefs are usually held by people who are ignorant about space travel and the moon, some of them stunningly so. People who send missions to the moon don't share that same ignorance or those beliefs, so would have no reason to doubt the moonlandings. Besides, their craft usually had specific tasks and it was probably far to difficult or costly for them to try what you suggest. Again, people who have only ever watched movies or TV and not studied space travel think spacecraft can do all sorts of wonderful things, like the shuttles in "Armageddon," and have unlimited fuel. For a start, soaring and making noises that travel in space come to mind.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 19, 2009 3:08:19 GMT -4
Bill kaysing said that he will never say a word again about the hoax if he is shown the remains of the apollo missions by a powerful telescope or by other means, was he alive when these pictures were taken by the LRO? For Probe detailsI haven't updated wthis page with Apollo 12 yet, waiting for all the new images to add. There have been some claims that Chandrayaan took images that showed Apollo 17's rover tracks as it descended to crash,. but having seen the images I don't accept them as showing anything like tracks. As far as being able to see anything with a telescope from Earth, it would require a primary mirror 100m across, that's the size of a football field, you can polish it is you want, but I'm not volunteering. For comparison, the biggest telescope mirrors currently on Earth are only 10m and the Hubble's is a tiny 4m.
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Post by gwiz on Sept 19, 2009 6:07:25 GMT -4
Many unmanned missions to the moon took place after lunar landings by many countries .why didn't any of them take a picture of the remains of apollo missions on the moon?or did they ?i have not seen one? Actually not that many missions. The Russians sent several probes in the 1970s, then there was a long gap before the US Clementine and Lunar Prospector and the Japanese Hiten in the 1990s and the more recent rush including probes from ESA, Japan, China and India. Even from lunar orbit, you need a pretty good camera to resolve Apollo hardware on the surface, and none of the probes between Apollo and LRO had the necessary equipment. The Indians came closest, with one picture that apparently shows Apollo 15 rover tracks.
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Post by shashankx17 on Sept 20, 2009 8:13:22 GMT -4
Why couldn't the soviets land on the moon even once when the US did it 6 times? was it so difficult for soviets, or did they just give up.
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Post by shashankx17 on Sept 20, 2009 8:51:48 GMT -4
Some astronauts, i don't remember from which country or when orbiting around the earth well below van allen belts,reported seeing strange things when they closed their eyes,later it was said that it was because the radiations penetrated the spacecraft itself in which they were present and into their eyes ,did the astronauts who had gone to moon report anything like this?if yes ,how many?
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Post by Cavorite on Sept 20, 2009 9:30:01 GMT -4
later it was said that it was because the radiations penetrated the spacecraft itself in which they were present and into their eyes It's a bit inaccurate to say "the radiation penetrated the spacecraft", as that leaves the implication that none should have. Shielding can reduce the amount of radiation the crew are exposed to, but never to zero. The point of shielding is to reduce the exposure to safe levels, not to eliminate it entirely.
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Post by drewid on Sept 20, 2009 9:43:14 GMT -4
The Soviets had major problems with their heavy lift rocket, and never managed a successful launch.
Apollo astronauts did report sometimes seeing the "flashes" of arriving particles when they had their eyes closed.
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Post by Data Cable on Sept 20, 2009 11:40:08 GMT -4
Why couldn't the soviets land on the moon even once when the US did it 6 times? was it so difficult for soviets, or did they just give up. Yes, and yes. The N1, their analogue to the Saturn V, had a habit of going BOOM, catastrophically so. So they hushed up the entire lunar program and concentrated their manned space program on Earth-orbiting stations instead.
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Post by laurel on Sept 20, 2009 12:58:31 GMT -4
Some astronauts, i don't remember from which country or when orbiting around the earth well below van allen belts,reported seeing strange things when they closed their eyes,later it was said that it was because the radiations penetrated the spacecraft itself in which they were present and into their eyes ,did the astronauts who had gone to moon report anything like this?if yes ,how many? There was an experiment with a device called ALFMED (Apollo light flash moving emulsion detector) that was used to study the light flashes the astronauts saw when they closed their eyes. You can read the relevant page of the Apollo 16 Flight Journal; the astronauts describe the light flashes in great detail. ares.jsc.nasa.gov/HumanExplore/Exploration/EXlibrary/docs/ApolloCat/Part2/ALFMED.htmhistory.nasa.gov/ap16fj/08_Day3_Pt1.htm
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