Leonov claiming hoax?

[Jairo]

I have seen in a Brazilian site that Alexei Leonov said in an interview for RIA Novosti that part of the Apollo footage was faked.

I tried to check the sources, but unfortunately I couldn't find an English version of it. Does anybody here speak German or know more about that?
de.rian.ru/science/20090720/122400812.html

[Tanalia]

Running it through a few translators, the basic idea seems to be:

1) He said it is foolish to think that the Americans did not go to the Moon or that they fabricated the entire record.

2) Armstrong could not have been filmed leaving the LM; the real video record started after he got the antenna set up.

Apparently the usual "who filmed the first step" error...

[Jairo]

Sept 26, 2009 1:01:22 GMT -4 Tanalia said:

Apparently the usual "who filmed the first step" error...

But it's fantastic that 40 years later Leonov wouldn't know that it was the camera at the MESA, supposing he actually said that.

He himself was filmed by two cameras placed outside the Voskhod 2 when he got outside the hatch and made the first EVA!

[laurel]

This is strange, because look what Leonov is quoted as saying in this RIA Novosti article:

en.rian.ru/russia/20090720/155565605.html

He said the USSR didn't televise the Apollo 11 footage and that he, "always believed it was a big mistake, we simply robbed our own people, because the flight to the Moon was the achievement and the heritage of the whole of humanity."

[supermeerkat]

Sept 26, 2009 0:04:46 GMT -4 Jairo said:

I have seen in a Brazilian site that Alexei Leonov said in an interview for RIA Novosti that part of the Apollo footage was faked.

I tried to check the sources, but unfortunately I couldn't find an English version of it. Does anybody here speak German or know more about that?
de.rian.ru/science/20090720/122400812.html

There's so much misinformation, misquotes and blatant lies flying about in the HB world I would take such things with a pinch of salt.

[zvezdichko]

No. But I really know what Leonov DID say. He said that believers in the hoax are "nevejestveny ludei" which means ignorant people

[dragonblaster]

For those who see Leonov as a total whistleblower for the Apollo hoax, because he knew it was impossible, I seem to remember hearing that in an unguarded moment he said he was scheduled to be the first man on the moon [sorry, no citation]... so he obviously didn't "know" it was impossible then.

[graham2001]

Sept 26, 2009 0:04:46 GMT -4 Jairo said:

I have seen in a Brazilian site that Alexei Leonov said in an interview for RIA Novosti that part of the Apollo footage was faked.

What a bizzare comment from a crewman of Apollo 20

[andreas]

Sept 26, 2009 1:10:49 GMT -4 Jairo said:

But it's fantastic that 40 years later Leonov wouldn't know that it was the camera at the MESA, supposing he actually said that.

Besides the two statements shown above in Tanalias reply #1 Leonov further said that the rumours about the fake originated from scenes made in Hollywood after the event “to keep the logic of what had happened”.
He didn’t mention the TV camera on the MESA.

Do you know that the TV camera on the MESA of Apollo 11 was significantly tilted? (see history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/ap11-S69-31584.jpg)
On the video sequences there is no obvious tilt, which should strike out when astronauts are walking around or just are standing. If the attached image belonged to the live broadcast, this part would already have been made before the event.

Attached picture series:
Left: View of the tilted TV camera on the MESA (after the upside-down correction)
Middle: Same picture, as it should have appeared on a television set (just rotated)
Right: Official picture from the Live Video
(The left and the middle picture have been constructed from the original one on the right.)

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[Cavorite]

Please don't just restate your claim from another thread as if no counterarguments had ever been offered.

[randombloke]

Yeah, I was just going to say; aren't you the guy that thinks he can arbitrarily assign a random object as "vertical" without reference or calculation to show this, then determine that everything perpendicular to it is horizontal therefore, and that this somehow leads to the photographs being staged?

Yeah, the MESA cam was tilted, but have you ever seen a Lunar Module on the ground before? The ladder is tilted too. I would not be surprised if somewhere in the design process there was an engineer that added the tilt specifically so that the ladder would appear vertical on teevee.

[dwight]

The thing is Leonov does not believe anything was hoaxed. At autographica during his lecture, and in front of my running video camera, he was asked if he thought Apollo was faked. He replied he didn't. No ifs and no buts. He also added, and I paraphrase, that he can't understand the mentality of anyone who does. I still have the video somewhere and one of these decades I'll drag it out. Who better to ask than the source himself rather than carry on for page after page theorizing, eh Andreas.

Furthermore, the tilt _is_ on the Apollo 11 video. Perhaps that would explain why it has been "Tilt corrected" on the DVD set as an available bonus available from Honeysuckle Creek's tribute site, and why _all_ references, including NASA's (for example the Apollo 11 press kit) refer and explicitly mention it when discussing the viewing angle from the MESA.

Andreas, if you want to bluff your way through this argument, perhaps you maybe want to pick an audience of people who haven't spent the last 5 years of their life researching the TV camera, and the precise angle it was sitting on during the opening phase of the first EVA.

If you want to maybe learn something for once in your life, pre-order this book:

www.amazon.com/Live-Moon-Apogee-Books-Space/dp/1926592166/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259974494&sr=8-1

You'll find your arguments are in reality ill-informed flights of fancy.