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Post by altair4 on Mar 3, 2008 17:46:11 GMT -4
for me:
Panther Ausf G & Soviet T34/76!!!
good match,Panther had sloped armour which made previous tanks obsolete, T34 was good (wide tracks) and was said to be the best tank in the war.
My dad was deafened by a Tiger 2 (King Tiger) during the war He was also involved in the liberation of Belsen concentration camp they rounded up the guards and shot them(Waffen SS)
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Post by bazbear on Mar 5, 2008 1:10:24 GMT -4
M1A2, Leopard 2, Challenger 2, LeClair, anything with a fully stabilized, computer assisted BIG gun, and modern layered armor, designed for crew survival.
For "classic" tanks? it's gotta be the Panther.
The most succesful tank of all time is probably the T-34/76 (then again, that's what the Panther was designed to fight)
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Post by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on Mar 8, 2008 11:05:55 GMT -4
Ever heard of the Ratte? Pure megalomania.
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Post by altair4 on Mar 9, 2008 18:50:30 GMT -4
No I have never heard of a Ratte, any photos anywhere? I thought the biggest german tank was the Maus!
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Post by captain swoop on Mar 17, 2008 17:03:35 GMT -4
Has to be the PzIV It was in production for the whole of the war in one form or another or the Sherman.
Modern stuff has to be the post war Centurion, Chieftain, Challenger family. Each generation an evolution of the one before, increasing capabilities, and provenin battle, the Centurion is still in servicer in some parts of the world.
Scimitar is cool as well, a 60MPH Jaguar engined speed machine. Well, they have all been refurbished with Diesels now lol.
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Post by Al Johnston on Mar 17, 2008 17:28:39 GMT -4
The Sherman's only real virtue was that it was cheap: the "Ronson" and "Tommycooker" nicknames weren't earned for nothing. In many ways, Centurion, Chieftain and Challenger were a reaction to that; designed around a big enough gun to kill any opponent and enough armour to stop almost anything that might come the other way.
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Post by captain swoop on Mar 18, 2008 7:07:33 GMT -4
Sherman wasn't only cheap, it was reliable and it was designed to be manufactured by a wide variety of contractors. If you did castings, there was a cast version (M4A1), if you did rolled plate there was a plate version (M4). Same with engines, a Diesel (M1A2) version used by the Marines so it shared acommon fuel with the landing craft (also favoured by the russians for lend lease. There was even a version with 5 V8 truck engines harnessed together (M4A4) that was the one that was the main lend/lease version supplied to the UK after the initial batches of M4 and M4A2.
When the Sherman was designed it was equivalent to the vehicles the Germans had in the field, unfortunately when it got into the field it lagged behind but did get upgrades, it was the equal of a PZIV which was still the most common German vehicle up until the end of the war.
Modern British equipment can be directly traced back to the Cromwell then the Comet and then Centurion. Earlier vehicles were private designs put forward by the manufacturing company and their ideas of what a tank should be. This led to things like the Covananter which was so poor it never saw action and all 2000 were relegated to training units.
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Post by BertL on Mar 18, 2008 9:15:42 GMT -4
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Post by Bob B. on Mar 18, 2008 9:40:13 GMT -4
My favorite tank is the one in my water heater. Without it I'd be taking cold showers.
(Oops, wrong kind of tank.)
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Post by echnaton on Mar 18, 2008 13:46:34 GMT -4
Bob, you need to get a tankless water heater. Then you'll always be in hot water.
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Post by pzkpfw on Mar 18, 2008 15:52:45 GMT -4
Has to be the PzIV It was in production for the whole of the war in one form or another... Darn straight. (Would have posted that earlier, but didn't want to touch this thread before the "meltdown".) P.S. T34/76? I'll see that and raise you all one T34/85.
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