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Post by altair4 on Mar 4, 2008 22:28:27 GMT -4
I thought this would get your attention!!
checkout WIG (Russian Ekranoplan) interesting, Wingin Ground Effect
I am sure there will be a market for this in the future(commercial/military)
time will tell!!
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Post by JayUtah on Mar 4, 2008 23:11:05 GMT -4
Yep, ground-effect aircraft have always been a fun niche in aircraft engineering. They have their strengths, but also their weaknesses. So where the strengths win and the weaknesses don't matter, there will likely be commercial develoment.
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Post by Al Johnston on Mar 5, 2008 6:03:28 GMT -4
The BBC showed a documentary about it a few years back: The Caspian Sea Monster. The programme mentioned that efforts were being made to market smaller ekranoplans in the US, but I've not heard anything of it since...
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Post by JayUtah on Mar 5, 2008 10:17:16 GMT -4
The problem is that the aerodynamic effects don't scale down well. A small ground-effect aircraft reaps proportionally little reward in efficiency, but has all the handling problems and speed limitations of the larger airframe. So at that scale it doesn't have any commercial advantage.
The only commercially successful ground-effect aircraft would be one that is very large. And large aircraft are expensive to engineer and expensive to buy. Few aerospace companies today are willing to invest in a large novelty airframe. Because GE aircraft fly slower than high-altitude aircraft, they aren't attractive as passenger aircraft.
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Post by Al Johnston on Mar 5, 2008 11:20:16 GMT -4
I think the idea was to compete with boats and ferries, over which they'd have a pronounced speed advantage while not having quite the fuel penalty of something like a hovercraft.
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Post by gwiz on Mar 5, 2008 15:48:39 GMT -4
A big problem with an aircraft flying at very low altitude is the number of things it can hit. Large birds can cause significant damage to an aircraft, and you need a pretty good radar to pick out a small boat in time to avoid clipping its mast. Over land you have even more possibilities, from party balloons to power lines.
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Post by JayUtah on Mar 5, 2008 20:32:16 GMT -4
I can see it capturing some of the hovercraft and hydroplane markets, but GE vehicles require significant runway to get up to speed and then to slow down again. Short-hop ferries will still hold that market, such as in Puget Sound.
I rode the straits of Messina many times. You can ride a slow ferry with a displacement hull or an aliscafo (hydroplane) that ends up being pretty hard on the dental work. It's not at all a smooth ride, no matter what the videos show. Unfortunately the strait of Messina is probably too narrow for an ekranoplan to get up to speed and get airborne for long enough to make a difference.
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