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Post by lordoftherings on Nov 21, 2005 16:31:08 GMT -4
www.aulis.com/jackstudies_9.htmlSee last photo Can anyone present me with something that looks more similar to athe studio light presented, and was carried to the moon so I get convinced it is not a spot light? Just a piece of the LM or something? Otherwise, the reflected object certainly looks like the spotlight presented next to it thnx
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Post by Al Johnston on Nov 21, 2005 16:39:25 GMT -4
Looks more like a second reflection of the astronaut taking the picture to me.
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Post by lordoftherings on Nov 21, 2005 16:44:07 GMT -4
plz
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 21, 2005 17:06:52 GMT -4
It's a smudge on the visor.
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Post by tofu on Nov 21, 2005 18:37:26 GMT -4
LOTR, you asked about the third picture on that page. Did you figure out the answer to the first picture yourself? If so, bravo! It took me a whilte to get it.
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Post by politik on Nov 21, 2005 18:40:30 GMT -4
Considering that objects in the rearview mirror are closer than they appear, any object seen reflected in the visor would appear to be much smaller than it really is.
If that smudge is a spot light, its a hell of a lot bigger than the one Aulis compares it to. Doesn't appear to be on either.
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Post by Data Cable on Nov 22, 2005 1:51:49 GMT -4
It's a smudge on the visor. Indeed. Since Jack doesn't bother telling us which photo this is, I'll point out that it's AS12-48-7071. The same smudge can be seen at the same location on Pete's visor in AS12-48-7134, as demonstrated below:
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Post by lordoftherings on Nov 22, 2005 6:38:47 GMT -4
Considering that objects in the rearview mirror are closer than they appear, any object seen reflected in the visor would appear to be much smaller than it really is. If that smudge is a spot light, its a hell of a lot bigger than the one Aulis compares it to. Doesn't appear to be on either. No the "smudge" is smaller. compare it well.
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Post by lordoftherings on Nov 22, 2005 6:39:50 GMT -4
It's a smudge on the visor. smudge?!!!! any proof?
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Post by lordoftherings on Nov 22, 2005 6:41:48 GMT -4
LOTR, you asked about the third picture on that page. Did you figure out the answer to the first picture yourself? If so, bravo! It took me a whilte to get it. I am asking about the fourth pic. Didn't get what you mean.
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Post by lordoftherings on Nov 22, 2005 7:02:49 GMT -4
AS12-48-7134 has smudges certainly, but not this. the smudges are faint, look not embedded in the photo, unlike this one that looks like a part of the visor.
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Post by twinstead on Nov 22, 2005 7:11:46 GMT -4
It's a smudge on the visor. smudge?!!!! any proof? I can guarantee that it would be easier to provide enough evidence of a smudge to convince a reasonable person that is indeed what it is than it would be to provide not only proof, but any evidence whatsoever that it is some kind of overhead light on a sound stage. I don't think Jay is the one with explaining to do.
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Post by lordoftherings on Nov 22, 2005 7:14:24 GMT -4
wait a minute, how can TWO smudges be on the same place of the visor inboth photos???
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Post by PhantomWolf on Nov 22, 2005 7:19:53 GMT -4
It's not two smudges. The shape is all but identical in both images, except that it looks smaller because the second image is from further away and the trailing lines are longer because of the angle the image is taken. Otherwise both images show a mark on the visor itself.
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Post by dwight on Nov 22, 2005 8:32:33 GMT -4
Not only that but in the second picture, the smudge, if it was the fresnel spotlight is at an angle inconsistent with the fall of light on Conrad's suit. The light would be casting it rays backwards so to speak in that picture, and that is a physical impossibility. A fresnel at that close range would result in a vastly different lighting condition than the one seen in the photo.
By the way the same website asks the question as to how the A14 flag photos could have been as Shepard and Mitchell dont have cameras on them...hmmm I believe the 16mm DAC sequence shows them exchanging the camera hand to hand, and if it is not specifically shown, I doubt such an action is impossible.
cheerio Dwight
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