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Post by papageno on Feb 4, 2006 11:02:13 GMT -4
An Italian website has come to my attention, that shows a sequence of photographs from the Apollo record with "blue flares" or other bright spots.
Going from frame to frame to frame, these bright spots appear in different positions, thus giving the impression of being moving objects.
I have not had much time to do further research about these blue flares (if I remember correctly, the Italians cite Hoagland), but I have a pet theory.
Is it possible that the photographic film, rolled up in the magazine, was hit by a cosmic ray (one of those fat ones), leaving a trace in several adjacent frames?
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Post by BertL on Feb 4, 2006 12:28:11 GMT -4
Aren't they those sun flares? Could you show the photographs?
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Post by bughead on Feb 4, 2006 12:40:48 GMT -4
Yeah, post the link so we can check it out.
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Post by JayUtah on Feb 4, 2006 14:45:32 GMT -4
Yes, we'd have to look at the photographs. In the abstract: yes, it's possible for it to be a cosmic ray. But we can't be sure that this abstract possibility applies in your specific case.
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Post by james on Feb 4, 2006 18:26:47 GMT -4
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Post by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on Feb 4, 2006 21:13:29 GMT -4
Yep, flares.
They all point in the direction of the brightest
source of light. The Sun.
That's a dead give-away.
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Post by papageno on Feb 5, 2006 9:15:03 GMT -4
The Italian website has it here:
+http://www.lunexit.it/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=6&pos=5
but I found the claims here:
+http://www.nexusitalia.com/nexus_new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view§ionid=16&Itemid=79&id=634
Unfortunately, the only ID for the photographs I found is AS14-66-9295.
From text, they should be part of a contingency panorama of Apollo 14.
Among other things, they point out that the astronaut (Alan Shephard?) taking the panorama pictures did not seem to see the object that appears in the photographs.
They mention a secret "Special Procedure" for the Apollo astronauts, according to which the astronauts were to ignore unusual sightings or encounters during the missions.
That the "object" might not have been an actual object seems to be ignored.
They also claim that there is a whistle-blower among the curators of the Apollo Image Atlas.
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Post by gwiz on Feb 6, 2006 4:46:40 GMT -4
Astronauts wouldn't have seen lens flares with their own eyes since they didn't have a through-lens viewfinder, or indeed any viewfinder.
Edit. nor cosmic ray strikes, which could have hit the film at any time.
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Post by Kiwi on Feb 6, 2006 6:37:53 GMT -4
The little elongated blue mark I saw on one of the above links looks very similar to rare processing faults I used to occasionally see on slide film in the 1970s. I've seen similar little round blue marks on some of the latest Apollo 11 scans on Kipp Teague's web site: www.apolloarchive.comHowever, remember that the electronic images you see on the internet are possibly fourth or later generations, so there's a big chance that the marks are not even part of the original images. Someone would have made duplicate transparencies and perhaps negatives off the originals, and the web images are probably scans of prints made from those duplicates. Or maybe it went: 1. Original 2. Duplicate transparency 3. Negative off duplicate tranny 4. Print off negative 5. Hi-res scan of print 6. Lower-res conversion to jpeg Trying to analyse things like that is similar to analysing the rectangular "structures" you see when you enlarge jpegs 400 times. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Feb 6, 2006 9:59:59 GMT -4
Looks like a cosmic ray strike to me
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Post by iamspartacus on Feb 6, 2006 10:12:56 GMT -4
They mention a secret "Special Procedure" for the Apollo astronauts, according to which the astronauts were to ignore unusual sightings or encounters during the missions. This may be considered as good evidence in HB circles especially as it links to other CTs. Did they say where they got this secret information from and why they think it is credible? I think I know the answer but I just thought I'd ask. |
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Post by papageno on Feb 7, 2006 16:11:59 GMT -4
They mention a secret "Special Procedure" for the Apollo astronauts, according to which the astronauts were to ignore unusual sightings or encounters during the missions. This may be considered as good evidence in HB circles especially as it links to other CTs. Did they say where they got this secret information from and why they think it is credible? I think I know the answer but I just thought I'd ask. They only mention that there are rumours about this "Special Procedure". Their words that they reject such unsupported "explanation" is contradicted by the fact that they talk about it more than about "conventional" explanations for these blue flares. |
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