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Post by freon on Oct 4, 2006 16:43:30 GMT -4
Is it correct to say that without the Nuclear Test Band Treaty of 1963, which ended nuclear test explosions in space, there would not have been a space race? Satellites, space stations, and survelance were needed and could easlly be nocked out by the EMP and the artificial radiation belt produced. One test the Starfish Prime eventually nocked out a third of all the satellites in low orbit. How were the astronauts protected from these artificial radiation belts of which some lasted for 5 years?
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Post by Jason on Oct 4, 2006 17:04:12 GMT -4
No. The Space Race was already well under way in '63.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Oct 4, 2006 17:32:46 GMT -4
Is it correct to say that without the Nuclear Test Band Treaty of 1963, which ended nuclear test explosions in space, there would not have been a space race?
Unlikely, then spacerace was well underway before 1963 and Apollo had been being worked on for 5 years, with Kennedy's backing for 2.
Satellites, space stations, and survelance were needed and could easlly be nocked out by the EMP and the artificial radiation belt produced.
Such an action probably would have turned the cold war from cold to hot.
One test the Starfish Prime eventually nocked out a third of all the satellites in low orbit.
Remember there were only a few satelites in orbit at the time, so one thrid was a total of seven. It also took time for four of them to be damaged to the point of non-functioning, it wasn't immediate.
How were the astronauts protected from these artificial radiation belts of which some lasted for 5 years?
Well during that time on two crews when above the level of Starfish Prime, Geminis X and XI. At that time (1966) it was nearing the end of its existance and would heve been avoidable due to its small size. The cloud from SFP neaver created an entire layer, just a part of one.
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Post by nomuse on Oct 5, 2006 5:37:03 GMT -4
I think "Nuclear Test Band" would be a cool name for a retro-pop group.
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Post by freon on Oct 5, 2006 18:51:42 GMT -4
Without the so called Space Race the soviets may have continued space testing which would have considerably hampered any attempts for space flights. One can imagine a scenerio of nocking out each others spy satellites and filling the exosphere with terrible amounts of radioactiviy and access electrons for decades to come.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Oct 5, 2006 21:15:57 GMT -4
Without the so called Space Race the soviets may have continued space testingWhat do you mean "Continue"? The Soviets never did a space test, they did 1 high Atmospheric Test, but that was it, the only successful in space test was the USA's Starfish Prime.
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Post by freon on Oct 7, 2006 10:08:21 GMT -4
From 1958-1962 the US and the Soviet Union did quite a few test in the upper atmosphere or in space. There were 3 for the Hardtack project, 3 for Argus project, Starfish Prime, Checkmate, Bluegill, Triple Prime, Kingfish, Tightrope for the US. For the Soviet Union there was #88, #115, #127K-2, #128 K-1, #184 K-3, #187 K-4, #195 K-5. Starfish Prime reached an altitude of 399 KM while Argus III reached an altitude of 540KM. The Soviet Union's #128K-1 reached an altitude of 300KM.
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Post by Count Zero on Oct 8, 2006 19:36:46 GMT -4
Without the so called Space Race the soviets may have continued space testingWhat do you mean "Continue"? The Soviets never did a space test, they did 1 high Atmospheric Test, but that was it, the only successful in space test was the USA's Starfish Prime. Your source says they conducted 4 tests in space.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Oct 18, 2006 17:22:10 GMT -4
Never heard of it referred to as the "Test Band Treaty".
Last I knew, it was the Limited Test Ban.
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