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Post by showtime on Mar 6, 2007 2:27:35 GMT -4
OMG,if you refuse to believe that they don't DO look anything alike, then you are not worthy of my conclusions..
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Post by Obviousman on Mar 6, 2007 2:29:58 GMT -4
OMG,if you refuse to believe that they don't look anything alike, then you are not worthy of my conclusions as silly as I thought you were.. There - fixed it for you. No charge, either.
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Post by showtime on Mar 6, 2007 2:40:23 GMT -4
You got to admit , I do put on a good show But this beginning to turn into name calling , can we get back to topic
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Post by JayUtah on Mar 6, 2007 3:09:05 GMT -4
OMG,if you refuse to believe that they don't look anything alike...
Begging the question. You were given reasons for the disbelief, which you have not addressed.
...then you are not worthy of my conclusions..
If you're unwilling to state and defend any conclusion, then you don't deserve anyone's attention.
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Post by JayUtah on Mar 6, 2007 3:10:00 GMT -4
But this beginning to turn into name calling , can we get back to topic
The topic is what conclusion you draw from your comparison of these photos. Please state it.
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Post by Data Cable on Mar 6, 2007 3:16:10 GMT -4
OMG,if you refuse to believe that they don't look anything alike... On the contrary, I firmly believe they don't look anything alike... because they don't.
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Post by showtime on Mar 6, 2007 3:46:33 GMT -4
my mistake,,I meant to say that you refuse to believe that they do look alike..
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Post by Data Cable on Mar 6, 2007 4:07:41 GMT -4
That wasn't your only mistake...
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Post by james on Mar 6, 2007 4:23:10 GMT -4
Looking at the high res photos. The ground in the Apollo 8 image seems to be rough and hilly all over. Where as the ground on the Apollo 11 photo looks relatively flat up until near the horizon where it becomes more hilly/mountainous.
Conclusion: Both photos do not show the same area of the Moon.
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Post by Mr Gorsky on Mar 6, 2007 5:37:11 GMT -4
There are so many craters on the lunar surface that it must be fairly straightforward to find a number of areas with crater arrangements that superficially appear to be the same. In order to consider that they are the same (and therefore the same area of the surface) then other aspects must be considered.
As others have already pointed out, there are other indicators, particularly the horizon, which just don't match between the two photos.
Since the pictures must be taken from roughly the same place in order for the view of the craters to be the same then the other features should also roughly correspond. If the craters match but the other features don't then clearly it is not the same area of the moon.
Conversely, if you take a picture of the same area from a different position then both the craters and the other features will appear different in the photographs.
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Post by grashtel on Mar 6, 2007 5:47:59 GMT -4
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Post by nomuse on Mar 6, 2007 6:17:08 GMT -4
Even on the level of a superficial similarity in the arrangement of three larger craters, this is not a very good match. The three craters pointed out by the original poster are of different _sizes_ in the two pictures...meaning their spacing can not be the same.
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Post by showtime on Mar 6, 2007 6:54:05 GMT -4
The uneven, rough terrain difference of the horizon can be explained by the 2 spacecrafts being in a different spot in orbit, either higher or lower & further along in the horizon & the angle of the shot. That doesn't mean that some of the same features wouldn't be visible. ;D Which they are ;D Here the Apollo8 photos of earth rise that were suppose to be taken minutes apart. Isn't the curvature of the moon suppose to be roughly the same if they were in orbit going around the moons equator? Anyhow,, you can see the horizon has changed in these photos too but some of same craters visible ;D ;D ;D
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Post by nomuse on Mar 6, 2007 7:16:30 GMT -4
Um...what? I can't see any similarity between any craters in the last two pictures. Other than their being, well, craters.
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Post by AtomicDog on Mar 6, 2007 7:37:47 GMT -4
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