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Post by iamspartacus on Feb 3, 2006 3:57:20 GMT -4
I find it strange that HBs in this forum mostly seem to hunt in a pack of one. There is more than one HB registered here. Why don't they support each other?
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 15, 2006 10:02:09 GMT -4
Argument #1 – Many HBs do not believe that rockets can work in space because : When the module descended, braking by firing its rockets, what did the thrust from these rockets react against, if there is no atmosphere? (I believe that BS has made a similar goof during a TV interview???) Argument #2 – Apollo did not go to the Moon but went in orbit while robot landers returned Luna samples. Contradiction – If rockets don’t work in space then how did Apollo achieve orbit/de-orbit. How did the robot landers achieve TLI, Luna orbit etc. etc, etc. PS. If the BS goof is true can anybody point me to a transcript?
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 8, 2006 13:48:20 GMT -4
Zooming in on the image shows that a lot of the "stars" are little lines and swirls and not points. I would guess that these are artifacts from a scan.
The "hair-like thing in the mountains, above the flag" shows it to be the "C" Mountain from which the famous "C" Rock probably came.
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 5, 2006 4:09:21 GMT -4
And all 'cuz the gub'mint plunged that nook-yuh-ler reactor into it! Talking of “gub’mints”. There was a time when the US really did create some space radiation. Back in 1962 the US wanted to see what a nuclear detonation looked like in space rather than in Earth’s atmosphere. The legendary Starfish Prime was the result. A 1.5 megaton yield device was launched by a Thor booster and detonated 250 miles above Johnston Island in the Pacific. The light show was apparently very impressive. Not so impressed were the good people of Hawaii over 900 miles away who lost their power, phones and TV as a result of the electromagnetic pulse. Some of the ionising particles were captured by the Van Allen belt which remained more energetic than usual for nearly 5 years. And the bad “gub’mint” did this more than once!
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 4, 2006 13:13:40 GMT -4
Actually referancing a Solar Flare X-event to a Hurricane isn't that bad an anology. We know that the Gulf of Mexico gets several hurricanes a year, and we know that the odds are that you're likely to be dead if you get caught out in a fishing boat in one. Using the same logic as the Hoax proponents do, it's impossible for anyone to go out fishing in the Gulf of Mexico because they'd be killed by a hurricane. A good analogy PW. There was one notable massive solar flare during the Apollo era on August 2 1972 and lasted for 10 days. This occurred between A16's return and before A17's flight. This would have caused problems to the Apollo crews should they have been caught in it but they weren't despite what the HBs say. The following link tells you more about it: science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/27jan_solarflares.htm
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 4, 2006 5:47:15 GMT -4
The HBs usually lump electromagnetic and particulate radiation together and don’t bother to distinguish between them. The electromagnetic type, x-rays and gamma rays are the most energetic and thus most penetrating and do require a material of high atomic weight (like lead) to absorb them. As has already been pointed out these are not strong enough in the Luna region to be a problem (lead suits not necessary) though could be during a solar flare.
The Earth’s magnetic field which generates the Van Allen belts does protect us from particulate radiation. The belts contain captured atomic particles like helium nuclei (alpha) and fast moving electrons (beta). These can be a problem when passing through but this can be mitigated by shielding of a low atomic weight like aluminium (lead would also work of course but it’s not necessary) and reduced exposure. All of which Apollo did.
So if an HB tells you you need a lead suit to survive on the Moon ask him which type of radiation he has in mind (electromag or particulate, see if he knows the difference). Ask him how strong he thinks it is up there (make sure he gives you a measurement with units and a verifiable source for his information). He won’t of course, they never do!
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Post by iamspartacus on Dec 31, 2005 9:37:29 GMT -4
Why is it that supreme beings who are all powerful and could communicate to us in our own native languages choose not to do so? Instead they opt for cryptic signs and portents all of which can be easily confused with natural phenomena. There was a case in the UK where a Muslim family saw the word Allah (in Arabic) when they cut open an aubergine (eggplant). I mean, there you are, an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent being and you chose to communicate to humanity through vegetables. A bit like aliens and crop circles I suppose.
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Post by iamspartacus on Feb 22, 2006 9:08:39 GMT -4
Welcome reynoldbot. Yes, the HBers have a wonderful ability to see what is not there but ignore what actually is.
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Post by iamspartacus on Feb 21, 2006 11:51:34 GMT -4
There are dry powders that take an imprint perfectly well like cement and talcum powder. Cement by its very nature is dry and has to be kept away from water and moisture. I suppose HBs tend to ignore these in their faked landing sound stages as they would create huge clouds of dust when kicked up by the "actors". They prefer the wet sand scenario but then ignore the very flat trajectories of soil actually kicked up consistent with 1/6th Earth gravity. How would they keep the sand wet? Sprinklers would leave telltale pitting. Would a misting system adequately moisten the sand enough before it was dried out by the studio light(s) by the end of the shot?
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 6, 2006 6:40:55 GMT -4
This really does suggest that meteorites have not been faked to resemble Luna material. Should have read: "This really does suggest that meteorites have not been faked to resemble Apollo Luna material."
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 5, 2006 11:36:22 GMT -4
PW’s link to Lunites says that most of the Apollo samples we “KREEPS” (“because, in addition to K, they have high concentrations of other elements that geochemists call "incompatible elements" such as the Rare-Earth Elements (REE, like lanthanum and cerium) and phosphorous (P).“). It goes on to say that, “Only one lunar meteorite, Sayh al Uhaymir 169 with a whopping 33 ppm Th, is a "KREEPy"”.
This really does suggest that meteorites have not been faked to resemble Luna material.
Ivan really should do a bit more reading. Either that or get our more and chase squirrels.
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 4, 2006 18:43:51 GMT -4
Be fair, Ivan didn’t say he met Elvis Presley. It could have been Elvis Jerkovski for all we know. Ivan is yanking our chain again.
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 1, 2006 7:04:13 GMT -4
There is a great book that Ivan can read if he is really interested. It's almost a seminal work on Luna geology, the Apollo missions and what they found there.
To a Rocky Moon: A Geologist's History of Lunar Exploration By Don E. Wilhelms
• Paperback (January 1994) • Publisher: University of Arizona Press • Language: English • ISBN: 0816514437
Ivan seems to have gone to ground. Just when you fancy a bit of sport the prey disappears.
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Post by iamspartacus on Dec 30, 2005 7:53:27 GMT -4
Ivan may well be a chain yanker in which case he has already achieved what he wanted, namely getting us to respond to him. On the other hand he may indeed be a genuine HB which means he lives in an irrational belief based world and not a rational one based on evidence. By “evidence” I mean evidence that stands up to any king or scrutiny.
I think you guys have done the right thing. You have been patient and polite and tried to point him in the right direction. I think we just have to accept that some people live in a different world to us. It’s a lot smaller than ours of course.
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Post by iamspartacus on Jan 21, 2006 5:41:26 GMT -4
Dumb Godless Moon kids, they forgot to take the radio!
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