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Post by chew on Jan 16, 2012 11:59:57 GMT -4
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Post by chew on Jan 15, 2012 15:02:01 GMT -4
chew i did not make up magic bullet theory or "pristine" bullet theory No, you just keep repeating the same lie over and over again. So you want to keep repeating the pristine bullet lie. Have fun with it. I won't debate with liars. Goodbye.
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Post by chew on Jan 14, 2012 21:59:06 GMT -4
attached is a photo of JFK back note the bullet hole well below the neck area where it was supposed to have exited. It looks like it would be slightly above the throat wound to me. Yeah, we know what you think. Or rather, we know you prefer not to think for yourself. It is universally acknowledged that the autopsy pathologists did a crappy job. None of the personnel present at the autopsy had ever performed a gun shot autopsy procedure on a human. Hearsay evidence from people who weren't there. The autopsy pathologists have maintained nobody but themselves were in charge. And he has publicly stated why he destroyed his notes. Except that x-rays showed no bullet in his neck. Therefore the bullet exited his body and the only other wound consistent with the trajectory of the entrance wound was the exit wound in JFK's throat. Perhaps simple deductive logic doesn't apply to mundane explanations? Jackie was indirectly responsible for selecting non-qualified people to do the autopsy. When Jackie Kennedy was asked where she wanted her husband's body to be examined she replied that since Jack had served in the Navy the Navy should do it. The Naval hospital closest to where they landed was Bethesda. Personally, I believe the pathologists knew they should have deferred to a forensic pathologist or should at least have requested one to be present but they wanted the fame. You've already failed every single physics test we've thrown at you about Apollo and now you expect us to believe you are qualified to give an expert opinion on ballistics and metallurgy? You are assuming the nose hit bone. The bullet traveled through JFK and only nicked a vertabra. It was tumbling when it hit Connally and entered his back traveling almost sideways. The shape of his back wound confirms it was tumbling. It hit his ribs sideways. His thoracic surgeon testified it was his opinion the ribs were hit by a bullet traveling sideways. Then it traveled through his wrist base first. I provided you links with pictures that show the bullet was not in a pristine condition. If you keep repeating your lies you will find yourself in a very lonely conversation.
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Post by chew on Jan 14, 2012 21:32:11 GMT -4
chew Mcclelland did not do the tracheotomy, Quite right. It was perry who performed the tracheotomy. Yeah, well, that's where most tracheotomies are performed.
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Post by chew on Jan 14, 2012 20:15:25 GMT -4
I prefer to believe a doctor who was at parkland and believes the neck wound was an entrance wound here he is now pointing to the spot ER doctors are no better than chance at determining if a bullet wound is an entrance wound or an exit wound. If they were accurate, we wouldn't need autopsies. The Bethesda pathologists called McClellan the next morning and asked McClellan about JFK's throat wound. McClellan said he performed an tracheotomy through what he thought was an entrance wound. When the pathologists described the entrance wound in JFK's upper back McClellan revised his assessment that the throat wound was an exit wound. The throat wound did not have the abrasion collar that is almost always found on entrance wounds.
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Post by chew on Jan 14, 2012 20:07:14 GMT -4
chew now your putting words in my mouth i never said a bullet could not have gone thru body parts No, I said your description of the path of the single bullet was a strawman of what the WC said. Work on your reading comprehension. Work on your spelling while you're at it. The single image of CE 399 you provided is hardly representative of the bullet's shape. In fact, the image you chose pegs you as someone who is not interested in an honest debate. Better images of the magic bullet's shape here: www.jfk-info.com/fragment.htmWas the "pristine bullet" really pristine?Absolutely! But Connally's doctor did not weigh the fragments. The fragments in Connally's wrist were minute particles and weighed less than a grain of lead. The magic bullet was weighed, the collected fragments were weighed, and bullets from the factory were weighed and the difference was within limits.
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Post by chew on Jan 14, 2012 19:50:04 GMT -4
The MC was an excellent weapon I provided an expert who provided proof the MC was an excellent weapon. You provided ridicule. Why would a sniper need more than one bullet?
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Post by chew on Jan 14, 2012 17:43:31 GMT -4
It is interesting to me that what is demanded is official evidence, what IS it, basically anything approved by the WC? It's always a bad debating tactic to put words in your opponents' mouths. Strawman fallacy. That is not the path the WC claimed and the bullet was not pristine. Just think about that for a moment. What kind of idiot conspirator would plant evidence without fulling knowing the course of fire? Without knowing how many bullets are still in the victims' bodies? You are making assumptions with facts that we know now but any possible conspirators would not know so soon after the limo arrived at the hospital. Stop regurgitating all the nonsense you've read on conspiracy websites and learn how to think for yourself, for god's sake. Assume this symbol is a piece of lead: ▪ Quickly! Tell me its weight in grains! Well, Charles Brehm, for one. You remember Charles Brehm? Here he is in the Zapruder film with his son: www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z285.jpgWhen told Connally was also hit he immediately came to the conclusion that both men were hit by the same bullet. Why did he come to that conclusion? Because he was shot in WWII and the bullet went through his chest then through his arm. You have it backwards. An expert marksman would have only needed one shot to kill the President. It took Oswald three tries to get it right! That the Mannlicher-Carcano was a bad rifle is a conspiracy theorist myth that just won't die. The MC was an excellent weapon. These videos debunk that myth: www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4c5Zr7hzzAwww.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOQ2oebB2MDefine luck in this context. 1 out of 10? 1 out of 100? Per shot? Per target?
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Post by chew on Jan 14, 2012 12:59:10 GMT -4
I was going to leave it at that, but on seeing this I've got to ask... Playdor, which individual analysed the film and showed you the blurred people on that single frame from which you claimed to be able to measure their 'velocity'? I'll bet you anything it was Jack White.
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Post by chew on Jan 13, 2012 21:39:23 GMT -4
once you know that JFK was shot in the temple from the front, the only possible shooters are in the front seat, greer or kellerman, and greer is turned when the shot hits JFK Wow! Of all the wacky certifiable crackpot theories out there you fell for the wackiest.
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Post by chew on Jan 13, 2012 16:32:27 GMT -4
why didn't greer or kellerman react when the weasel was crying no no no no THEY are going to kill us all. would you want me to believe that greer and kellerman turning around to see who was whinning was an appropriate reaction? What would you expect Greer to do, jump out his seat and start shooting his pistol?
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Post by chew on Jan 12, 2012 1:06:06 GMT -4
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Post by chew on Jan 12, 2012 1:03:21 GMT -4
Jason Thompson the doctors in the trauma room at Parkland hospital that worked on JFK including Dr Charles Crenshaw and Dr Robert McCelland and staff, witnesses in Dealey plaza, photographers and personnel at Bethesda have sworn that the head wound was entry front right, exit back right. No witness anywhere has claimed to have seen an entry wound in JFK's head. Some said the rear of his skull was missing. The doctor who got the best look said the right side of his skull was missing. The pathologists said the right side of his skull was missing.
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Post by chew on Jan 12, 2012 1:00:58 GMT -4
The claims the Zapruder film has been tampered with were long ago proven to be wrong.
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Post by chew on Jan 10, 2012 20:04:30 GMT -4
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