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Post by margamatix on Jul 25, 2005 17:10:01 GMT -4
Well, lets just leave it at this.............
I published the url of the footage and so its there for anyone to view and judge for themselves.
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Post by margamatix on Jul 25, 2005 16:58:49 GMT -4
. You have merely postulated that the observations are explained by a suspension rig and not low gravity. Where is your evidence of the rig?
Because being moved by a rig is the only way that a human being could move in the manner shown, regardless of the vacuum, gravity or temperature in which he found himself.
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Post by margamatix on Jul 25, 2005 16:42:03 GMT -4
I didn't save my examination. It's not a matter of being unwilling; it's a matter of being unable. You claimed the astronaut's feet left the ground, and that this is inappropriate. You have that burden of proof. They did leave the ground. You can clearly see that they did, and no amount of blaming "poor compression" alters that. You can clearly see that he is jerked upwards- that his feet momentarily leave the ground, and he is then lowered before a second, successful attempt is made to lift him. This footage was not taken on the moon.
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Post by margamatix on Jul 25, 2005 16:32:28 GMT -4
Why are you so interested now in judging for ourselves? A minute ago you said your case was "clear" from David Cosnette's version. Is your case now less clear? As a matter of fact, I just looked at one or two frames with altered contrast to see whether there was ever "daylight" between the astronaut's foot and the ground. I didn't save anything. Is this the part where you try to shift the burden of proof? I'll take it that means "No" then.
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Post by margamatix on Jul 25, 2005 15:42:02 GMT -4
After cleaning up the video a little on my computer, I disagree with the premise that the astronaut's feet leave the ground. I don't imagine you would be prepared to upload this cleaned-up footage so we can see and judge for ourselves?
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Post by margamatix on Jul 25, 2005 14:48:25 GMT -4
Fifth scene (00:55-01:20): The astronaut is helped to his feet by his companion. You can quite clearly see that this is not the case- his feet momentarily leave the surface because he is having vertical force applied to his midriff. Whether or not we have been to the moon, this footage was not taken on the moon, and the astronaut was clearly being lifted by a third party.
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Post by margamatix on Jul 25, 2005 10:48:32 GMT -4
If you look at this piece of footage, www.ufos-aliens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/apollofilm.rmSpecifically the clip which starts at 55 seconds, you can quite clearly see that the astronaut is suspended on a wire. There is an unsuccessful attempt to raise him at first, which causes his posterior to rise from the ground momentarily, then a second attempt, which causes him to become erect without any physical effort on his part, such as him pushing himself upwards.
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Post by margamatix on Jul 20, 2005 18:16:58 GMT -4
[ The Apollo landings all occurred during lunar morning when the Sun was low in the sky and the ground had not yet heated up to those kinds of temperatures. But surely they were there for three days?
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Post by margamatix on Jul 20, 2005 17:37:41 GMT -4
Finally, is it true that the daytime temperature on the moon is 250 degrees celsius?
The temperature of what?
Well, everything. You get a cold day, you get a hot day. It was hot here today (London, England) at around 30 degrees celsius. 45 is the highest I have ever experienced, in the Middle East. I would have thought that 250 degrees celsius is very hot and I would be too tired for playing golf or driving around. In fact, I imagine I would be dead within a few seconds of being in it. There is no type of spacesuit-cooling system which is pysically plausible so what's the story here?
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Post by margamatix on Jul 20, 2005 16:37:25 GMT -4
Is it true that if you double the speed of the film, the astronauts look *exactly* as they would look running around on Earth in a clumpy suit?
I also heard that no country claims to have sent any man, woman or animal more than 400 miles away from Earth in the last 30 years, but the moon is 240,000 miles away. Is that true?
Finally, is it true that the daytime temperature on the moon is 250 degrees celsius?
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Post by margamatix on Jul 20, 2005 16:09:50 GMT -4
On the moon, where gravity is only a sixth of that on Earth, a man should be able to jump 10 feet vertically, yet the highest jump made by any astronaut was 19 inches, and horizontally, steps taken were no longer than those on Earth. is there a reason for this?
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Post by margamatix on Nov 20, 2005 17:37:54 GMT -4
Actually, deep-fried Mars Bars are a fairly common delicacy in Northern Britain where consumption of confectionary is at its highest in Britain.. Obviously that image is a photo-shopped fake, but then so is this one-
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Post by margamatix on Nov 20, 2005 17:17:40 GMT -4
Just for you Al.....
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Post by margamatix on Nov 26, 2005 11:50:40 GMT -4
Not necessarily ... after all, one crash robbed the world of the greatest civilian flyer ever built - Concorde. I think you'll find that the downturn in the aviation industry following 9/11 was a more telling factor in Concorde's demise.
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Post by margamatix on Nov 20, 2005 15:40:46 GMT -4
If they can show why it's not possible for anyone to go, then that would certainly be a boost for the Hoax. . Time will tell, but I do not believe that either the Russian or Chinese missions will take place. We've only got a few years to wait in the case of the former mission and we should still both be around to see. Anyway, why would the Chinese not be able to do it? Why could they not just build an exact copy of Saturn and Apollo if these machines were capable of the task?
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