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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 5, 2007 21:13:08 GMT -4
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 5, 2007 21:27:34 GMT -4
If LunarOrbit had decided that no pictures of cats were allowed here I'm sure there is an immature joke in there somewhere... something to do with synonyms for the word "cat". Where is Bill Thompson when you need him?  |
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Post by Data Cable on Jan 5, 2007 23:02:33 GMT -4
Where is Bill Thompson when you need him? Uranus. |
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Post by spongebob on Jan 6, 2007 19:01:23 GMT -4
More like a side issue anyhow. If LunarOrbit had decided that no pictures of cats were allowed here (perhaps he had experience with another board collapsing under the weight of cat pictures, or perhaps he was just a felinaphobe), and this was made clear to all participants, and within the last few months a long-standing board member got banned due to posting a picture of a cat..... Perhaps in this circumstance it would be reasonable and sensible for the Administrator to make it clear in the rules that cat pictures were forbidden? What can you call a man who suddenly takes time out from arguing about Apollo to post a picture of a cat -- other than SUICIDAL. What exactly does "You can talk about almost anything here" mean, if it means "You can't talk about the biggest news of the week? mean, really....the laws of physics will suddenly be amended (or, least, better understood by forum participants) after we've viewed a picture of a hanging? Somehow, one image of a former dictator in a noose proves that there really is no such thing as vacuum, and there is really a temperature in space?..... Eh? What has Apollo got to do with this?  ?? |
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Post by frenat on Jan 6, 2007 19:07:33 GMT -4
[ What exactly does "You can talk about almost anything here" mean, if it means "You can't talk about the biggest news of the week? You can talk about it. I have no doubt that Moonman would still be here if he only talked about it. Instead, Moonman posted images of it. Not only that but just a day before, he posted links to the videos in a different thread. That thread was removed and he was warned. Then he posted the images and was banned. What about all this don't you get? He had a warning then went farther. If one doesn't take action at that point then the warnings are useless. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 6, 2007 19:47:36 GMT -4
Perhaps in this circumstance it would be reasonable and sensible for the Administrator to make it clear in the rules that cat pictures were forbidden?
Try reading reply #4 of this very thread that starts out:
Margamatix has been banned after he posted images yesterday of a man who had been executed in an electric chair. The images violated the Proboards Terms of Service...
Everybody on this board, except it seems those that like to live with their heads under a rock, know that if you post grissy images on this board you will be banned. LO has told people that, it's in this very thread a number of times because of the conversation over the last time it occured. Moon Man even got a warning from LO and then instead of responding in a normal fashion and removing the link and dropping the subject, he deliberately provoked a banning by going further and posting the images directly to the board. I'm sorry, but if you can't see what is painfully obvious and have to instead twist it into some sort of demonisk action by LO to satify your warped world views, then you really are showing exactly how close minded and stubbornly irrational you really are.
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Post by spongebob on Jan 6, 2007 20:35:27 GMT -4
Perhaps in this circumstance it would be reasonable and sensible for the Administrator to make it clear in the rules that cat pictures were forbidden?Try reading reply #4 of this very thread that starts out: Margamatix has been banned after he posted images yesterday of a man who had been executed in an electric chair. The images violated the Proboards Terms of Service...Everybody on this board, except it seems those that like to live with their heads under a rock, know that if you post grissy images on this board you will be banned.. Perhaps newcomers read the forum rules but do not specifically seek out this thread to learn the Administrator's personal foibles which are not part of the Forum Rules? |
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Post by spongebob on Jan 6, 2007 20:39:33 GMT -4
If LunarOrbit had decided that no pictures of cats were allowed here I'm sure there is an immature joke in there somewhere... something to do with synonyms for the word "cat". I bet you there isn't. I bet you that Nomuse meant nothing of the sort. What else do the voices tell you? But I guess we need Nomuse back here to give us the definitive answer. |
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Post by AstroSmurf on Jan 6, 2007 20:59:24 GMT -4
Perhaps newcomers read the forum rules but do not specifically seek out this thread to learn the Administrator's personal foibles which are not part of the Forum Rules? Dude, let me respond to that with a great whatever. He was warned, and repeated his offense anyway. That's suicide-by-mod on any board, whether it's ApolloHoax.net, BeatlesFanatics.org or CatFriends.com. (some of these may actually exist. I take no responsibility if you follow the "links") |
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Post by spongebob on Jan 6, 2007 21:26:42 GMT -4
Perhaps newcomers read the forum rules but do not specifically seek out this thread to learn the Administrator's personal foibles which are not part of the Forum Rules? Dude, let me respond to that with a great whatever. He was warned, and repeated his offense anyway. That's suicide-by-mod on any board, whether it's ApolloHoax.net, BeatlesFanatics.org or CatFriends.com. Point taken. I guess "It's my trainset" is rule No. 1 here...  |
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 6, 2007 22:05:49 GMT -4
Perhaps in this circumstance it would be reasonable and sensible for the Administrator to make it clear in the rules that cat pictures were forbidden? When Moon Man joined the forum he agreed to the following: You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of ANY law. This is not only humorous, but legal actions can be taken against you. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or you have consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also inappropriate to this forum. Maybe he didn't read it, but ignorance is no excuse. Maybe he didn't consider execution images vulgar or obscene, but I did and so did a number of the other members. The point is that he agreed to those terms and then he violated them. It is absolutely unreasonable to ask me or Proboards to list every single possible banable offense because it's impossible for me to even imagine every way someone could be offensive. It is impossible for me to define in advance what constitutes "vulgar" and "obscene" because there is more crazy stuff out there in this world than I even know about. But in this case Moon Man WAS AWARE that I considered execution images and video offensive because I warned him and so did at least one other member of the forum. Do you warn everyone who enters your home that taking a crap in the middle of your livingroom is not allowed, or do you assume that they have a grasp of what is considered acceptable behaviour? I really should not have to tell people that posting offensive video or images is not allowed here, and the fact that you have a problem with this is truly bizarre. I can only assume that you're being intentionally dense just to stir up trouble. In this case there was a precedent... someone had posted execution images before Moon Man and was banned for it. Moon Man was also warned after posting the video that doing so again would get him banned, so when he posted the images he surely would have known what would happen. Here is the private message I sent him after he posted the video: Moon Man then decided to post the still images from the execution at 8:50pm on December 31, roughly 20 hours after I warned him. He had time to read my warning, he was likely aware of the reason for Margamatix's banishment, he had the opportunity to read the forum rules that I set in place, and he should have been aware of the Proboards rules made available to him during the registration process. If he was unaware of the rules against posting obscene material then it is his own fault. Read this carefully: "You can talk about almost anything here" ALMOST anything... That word covers a lot of territory, obviously. I put it there because the rules that everyone agreed to when they joined the forum put certain limits on what we can discuss. We can not discuss anything that is is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of ANY law. That is intentionally vague so that it doesn't limit the moderation of the forum, but specific enough (you'd think) that most people get the idea. Most people understand it, but apparently you're too dense. I have absolutely no problem with people talking about the Saddam execution. What I have a problem with is people being exposed to graphic video and images of things that are offensive with little or no warning. |
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 6, 2007 22:14:43 GMT -4
Perhaps newcomers read the forum rules but do not specifically seek out this thread to learn the Administrator's personal foibles which are not part of the Forum Rules? Perhaps newcomers read the Proboards rules before they register, and then if they are unclear about what "vulgar" or "obscene" mean they ask me before posting anything that might violate that rule. Or maybe they just play it safe and decide not to post anything that is potentially offensive. I am not your conscience, I am not here to do your thinking for you. I'm assuming you're an adult and have developed a sense of right and wrong at this point in your life. The rules offer basic guidelines, it is up to your judgment to determine when something you want to post is offensive. Do you and Moon Man lack that part of the brain that tells you "Hmm... this might offend someone, so maybe I should be considerate of their feelings and not say it"? Nah, I doubt the feelings of other people are ever a consideration for you, all that matters is that you get to do whatever you want, right? |
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 6, 2007 22:18:42 GMT -4
I guess "It's my trainset" is rule No. 1 here... No, it's Proboard's trainset, they just let me play with it... and they'll take it away if I abuse it (or let others abuse it). But like I have said, you're free to start your own forum. So what's stopping you? Is it the fact that, as the moderator, you won't have anyone to complain about except yourself? Is that taking the fun away? That is it, isn't it? You enjoy complaining about the moderator, so actually being the moderator is of no interest to you. |
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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 6, 2007 22:21:03 GMT -4
I'm sure there is an immature joke in there somewhere... something to do with synonyms for the word "cat". I bet you there isn't. I bet you that Nomuse meant nothing of the sort. Of course he didn't mean it as an immature joke, and I never said he did. All I said is that I could have made a joke and chose not to. But judging by your apparent inability to comprehend simple rules, I'm not surprised that you don't get jokes either. |
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Post by Apollo Gnomon on Jan 6, 2007 22:47:32 GMT -4
Spongebob's Sig on Saturday, 6 Jan 2007, posted for future reference:
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