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Post by Ginnie on Sept 18, 2007 18:49:29 GMT -4
Regarding ttp://nowscape.com/mormon/mormons5.htm I'm just hoping it is not about genuine Mormonism. If it is, some explanation would be welcome.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Sept 18, 2007 19:18:59 GMT -4
What does Mormonism have to do with Fermi's Paradox, Bill?
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 18, 2007 20:52:37 GMT -4
What does Mormonism have to do with Fermi's Paradox, Bill? I think that Jason's beliefs are because of his faith. Mormon apostle, Bruce R. McConkie, taught that God created "worlds without number" and he said that "there live aliens on other planets unknown to us". McConkie tells us that these planets are "inhabited by male and female humanoids who are redeemed with immortality and offered eternal life through the power of Heavenly Father." Jason has not provded any scientific source to back up what he has in mind. So I am left to assume his ideas are religious instead of scientific. After a lot of trial and error questions about what sort of intelligent life Jason has in mind I have ruled out a lot and I am left with some sort of bipedal intelligent humanoid and yet not quite precisely like us. This falls in line precisely with the Mormon teachings that bipedal life is on countless planets throughout the cosmos. I am left to assume that this is exactly what Jason thinks and he thinks this way not because of Science but because of the momron teachings. Main stream scientists find this idea flawed. After 4.3 billion years of evolution, intelligent bipedal life sprung up just once. This is why I have heard main stream scientists say that this is not likely.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 18, 2007 21:05:27 GMT -4
I’m not afraid of being alone in the galaxy, Bill. ... You are lucky. I hate the idea of being alone. Solitary confinement is torture. I have also heard that lots of secluded human tribes have had faith that others are out there out of reach. Polonesians believed that they were the only humans on earth before the can across Eurpoean explorers. But here is the kicker: Polonesians believed they had cosmic brothers living on the moon.
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Post by wdmundt on Sept 18, 2007 21:29:45 GMT -4
I administered an unscientific poll of the nine people in the office today. Of the nine I asked, "Are you afraid we are alone in the universe," zero responded with "yes." No fear of being alone in the universe was reported.
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Post by Data Cable on Sept 20, 2007 2:58:10 GMT -4
There might be leprechauns in the forest around our office. It is possible. I have seen no evidence of leprechauns' existence... have you? I have seen evidence of intelligent life somewhere in this galaxy. Well, medical science came up goose eggs on curing cancer, we might as well let the Keebler munchkins have a crack at it... they have just as much probability of success, since science has already dictated that there is no cure for cancer to be found.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 20, 2007 16:38:02 GMT -4
You have? Oh hang on scratch that, you said evidence of, not proof of.
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Post by wdmundt on Sept 20, 2007 16:43:48 GMT -4
I think he means on Earth.
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Post by Jason on Sept 20, 2007 16:46:40 GMT -4
I was wondering if anyone was going to put their foot in that snare. But Phantom Wolf sprung it before Bill came along again.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 20, 2007 16:47:02 GMT -4
I think he means on Earth. Which I why I'll accept that there is evidence of, you'd have a Looooooong argument to convince that Earth is proof of, but obviously you missed the joke, and the
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Post by Ginnie on Sept 20, 2007 19:08:44 GMT -4
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Post by Jason on Sept 20, 2007 23:14:33 GMT -4
Can I have those sixteen minutes of my life back?
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Post by homobibiens on Sept 21, 2007 2:06:44 GMT -4
Can I have those sixteen minutes of my life back? Through accumulation of capital and technological progress, the productive capacity of the modern world is beyond the wildest imagination of most people throughout human history. Fortunately, we have the internet to destroy that incredible productive power...
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Post by Bill Thompson on Oct 19, 2007 19:36:09 GMT -4
I was wondering if anyone was going to put their foot in that snare. But Phantom Wolf sprung it before Bill came along again. There might be leprechauns in the forest around our office. It is possible. I have seen no evidence of leprechauns' existence... have you? I have seen evidence of intelligent life somewhere in this galaxy. I think he means on Earth. Not even...
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Post by reynoldbot on Oct 21, 2007 0:07:16 GMT -4
For once, I agree with Jason on this one.
We just haven't had the capacity to receive or transmit signals long enough to conclusively say there is no intelligent life elsewhere in the universe (or in our galaxy, or even in our galactic neighborhood for that matter). As for the other stipulations, there are just too many variables and possibilities to look at the lack of direct evidence and conclude there is no life around us. It would be foolish to make such premature conclusions so early in the game. It would be like saying the Packers are going to lose a football game because they fumbled on the first punt return.
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