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Post by robdog on Apr 14, 2010 15:02:55 GMT -4
Good day everyone. I hope this post is not too much off-topic, but it does relate to Prof. Colin Rourke, and specifically to information that he has posted alongside his Mons Hadley musings. This document from his personal web site msp.warwick.ac.uk/~cpr/spot.pdf is a one-page PDF containing two images. On the left is an image correctly attributed as STS103-731-017 taken in 1999. It shows Claude Nicollier carrying out work on the Hubble telescope. On the right is an image correctly attributed as AS15-88-11865 taken in 1971. It shows Jim Irwin saluting the American flag during the Apollo 15 mission. Both images have been cropped from the originals. Prof. Rourke then invites us – according to the title of his document – to “Spot the difference”. I am baffled, because apart from being photographs of different people on different missions taken 28 years apart, what differences am I supposed to be spotting? I fail to see his point, and I’m wondering; what has motivated Prof. Rourke to bother uploading this, to be frank, bizarre document? Am I missing something obvious? Maybe it’s all a bit of a Professorial joke and/or I’m having a massive sense of humour failure?
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Post by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on Apr 14, 2010 18:00:12 GMT -4
I can see Nicollier's face.
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Post by slang on Apr 14, 2010 18:37:52 GMT -4
Prof. Rourke then invites us – according to the title of his document – to “Spot the difference” No moon dust on Nicollier, must be fake. No stars. No cameras near Irwin's head, must be fake. Definitive evidence for wires in Nicollier's image, you can even spot the hooks!
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Post by drewid on Apr 15, 2010 3:56:24 GMT -4
The suit on the left has red chevron bands around it. The flag is in a different place.
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OOOO I know, Irwin is stood on the moon and Nicollier isn't. I knew I'd get there in the end.
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Post by thetart on Apr 15, 2010 15:58:21 GMT -4
The flag is fluttering on the rh photo. That proves it. Probably.
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Post by scooter on Apr 15, 2010 19:12:34 GMT -4
One's digital and the other is film? Or the apparent "brightness" of the shuttle suit?
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Post by tedward on Apr 16, 2010 3:51:21 GMT -4
Heck of an argument from an academic though, using the argument style of a youtube "expert".
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Post by robdog on Apr 16, 2010 4:05:07 GMT -4
Seriously though, this document ( msp.warwick.ac.uk/~cpr/spot.pdf) is so utterly odd isn't it? So odd in fact that I felt compelled to email Prof Rourke to ask him, in a nutshell, what his point is. I do hope he responds otherwise I feel that this will forever be an itch that I cannot scratch.
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Post by chew on Apr 16, 2010 10:23:21 GMT -4
My turn!
One is being burned alive by intense cosmic radiation, the other is at a cool 98.6F beneath the omnipotent protection of the Van Allen Belts?
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Post by donnieb on Apr 16, 2010 16:33:55 GMT -4
There *is* no difference! That proves the "Apollo" picture was taken in Earth orbit, just like the Hubble/STS picture!
Yeah, that's it.
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Post by robdog on Apr 17, 2010 9:48:14 GMT -4
Seriously though, this document ( msp.warwick.ac.uk/~cpr/spot.pdf) is so utterly odd isn't it? So odd in fact that I felt compelled to email Prof Rourke to ask him, in a nutshell, what his point is. I do hope he responds otherwise I feel that this will forever be an itch that I cannot scratch. Well well. Professor Rourke has kindly replied explaining his reasoning behind the document linked to above. I'm kind of ignorant of the etiquette regarding this kind of thing. Is it allowed for me to just go right ahead and quote from Prof. Rourke's email to me, or am I obliged to seek his permission first?
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Post by trebor on Apr 17, 2010 11:23:53 GMT -4
You could summarise his point (if he actually had one) in your own words.
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raven
Jupiter
That ain't Earth, kiddies.
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Post by raven on Apr 17, 2010 13:40:52 GMT -4
Please do. This confuses the heckles cakes out of me.
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Post by Ginnie on Apr 17, 2010 14:29:39 GMT -4
With a little work, I think I was able to represent more clearly what Mr. Rourke was trying to do. This project took me many weeks of digital manipulation and research to achieve these results. Hopefully this will clear up any ambiguities.... ;D ;D
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Post by carpediem on Apr 17, 2010 15:58:05 GMT -4
I still don't get it.
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