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Post by gillianren on Nov 9, 2010 15:34:00 GMT -4
What would the opposite of that be? That he rejects the laws of nature as he understands them? The issue here is that his understanding is flawed. That may be delusion, and it may be simple ignorance combined with pig-headedness. You haven't come anywhere near to meeting a medical standard of showing delusion. I have yet to see any evidence he rejects physical laws out of anything other than ignorance. The fact that he refuses to be taught otherwise may be considered a delusion, but if it is, it's probably one of the most common delusions in the world. The fact is, how satellites orbit the Earth aren't something most of us ever even consider. Being wrong about that is probably pretty common. |
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Post by echnaton on Nov 9, 2010 20:10:29 GMT -4
You haven't come anywhere near to meeting a medical standard of showing delusion No one was attempting a medical diagnosis. |
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Post by lukepemberton on Nov 9, 2010 20:41:48 GMT -4
You haven't come anywhere near to meeting a medical standard of showing delusion No one was attempting a medical diagnosis. The guy is hunchbacked on YouTube right? www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjkVt2N3JcI |
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Post by gillianren on Nov 9, 2010 20:48:33 GMT -4
No one was attempting a medical diagnosis. I reserve use of the term for only medical usage. Separating it that way makes it easier later. |
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Post by Count Zero on Nov 9, 2010 21:47:22 GMT -4
Is someone being accused of antisemantism?  ;D |
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 9, 2010 22:03:30 GMT -4
Is someone being accused of antisemantism? ;D Gillianren alert! |
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Post by Count Zero on Nov 10, 2010 1:17:32 GMT -4
No, I think she is the least antisemantic person among us.
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Post by gillianren on Nov 10, 2010 3:29:35 GMT -4
Precision in language wherever possible. That's me.
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Post by ka9q on Nov 10, 2010 3:37:08 GMT -4
A møøse once bit my sister. Have the people who were responsible for sacking the people who were supposed to sack the moose, been sacked? |
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Post by theteacher on Nov 10, 2010 6:22:01 GMT -4
No one was attempting a medical diagnosis. I reserve use of the term for only medical usage. Separating it that way makes it easier later. How about Richard Dawkins: "The God Delusion"? |
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Post by Czero 101 on Nov 10, 2010 8:02:33 GMT -4
A møøse once bit my sister. Have the people who were responsible for sacking the people who were supposed to sack the moose, been sacked? Yes, but they were sacked before they could sack the people who were supposed to sack the moose. The people who sacked them have themselves, been sacked, and the moose has wandered off into the forest. (the person who let the moose out has been sacked)Cz |
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Post by Count Zero on Nov 10, 2010 10:33:56 GMT -4
I reserve use of the term for only medical usage. Separating it that way makes it easier later. How about Richard Dawkins: "The God Delusion"? That's the 2nd time I've heard that book mentioned, this week. My waitress talked about it while we were discussing Stephen Jay Gould's "Wonderful Life" (which goes a long way to explain why I'm a regular at that particular burger joint). |
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Post by gillianren on Nov 10, 2010 15:41:44 GMT -4
How about Richard Dawkins: "The God Delusion"? I disapprove of that one on several levels. |
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Post by ka9q on Nov 10, 2010 19:23:59 GMT -4
Jay, while the expert, would probably be seen by some as too invested in the hoax theory to be truly independent. As far as the hoax believers go, anyone who actually knows Apollo is necessarily a NASA stooge, part of the Grand Conspiracy to perpetuate the hoax. That lets them conveniently escape any kind of knowledgeable criticism. Jarrah constantly uses this sort of argument to dismiss independent verification. For example, he incorrectly claimed that the Parkes radio telescope used to receive Apollo 11 TV was run by NASA. (It's owned and operated by the Australian government.) When corrected on this point he fell back to vague claims that the Australians were so dependent on NASA funding that they had to go along with the 'hoax'. And when that didn't work he concocted a ridiculous network of communication relays designed solely to fool any radio hams and governments who happened to listen in. |
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 10, 2010 20:00:05 GMT -4
How about Richard Dawkins: "The God Delusion"? That's the 2nd time I've heard that book mentioned, this week. My waitress talked about it while we were discussing Stephen Jay Gould's "Wonderful Life" (which goes a long way to explain why I'm a regular at that particular burger joint). Richard Dawkins and Stephen Jay Gould had different views on evolution, but were good friends. I believe Dawkins did publish a short eulogy for Gould when he passed away. |
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