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Post by lionking on Dec 22, 2010 8:00:30 GMT -4
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Post by echnaton on Dec 22, 2010 8:26:10 GMT -4
A look at several things in the video reveals what is going on here. And "magnetism" has nothing to do with it.
First notice that everything that attaches to her skin is flat. The phone, the handle of the utensils and the coin are all flat and smooth surfaces. Secondly notice how when she attaches the ladle to ther had at around 3 minutes into the clip, she holds it in her right hand and presses it into her left. That is not a magnetic attraction, but the ladle handle sticking to the surface of her skin.
I just stuck a credit card to my forehead right now. Its nothing special but is the result of oily skin. The girl may simply have more oily skin than most. TV news in the US is prone to presenting the sensational without much care for truth, particularly local news. I see no reason to think that Serbian TV would be any different.
It''s not "magnetism," but moisture making the flat surfaces stick to her. I suspect they fall off in a few seconds, but the clips are not long enough.
These things are commonly presented in children, because they don't know the difference between the forces involved. People don't suspect they are lying, so the children make a better demonstration. But the children are really a front for adults that are either lying of credulous enough to believe in unproven phenomenon when a straight forward explanation will suffice.
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Post by lionking on Dec 22, 2010 8:27:43 GMT -4
I hope LO can change the topic of the thread into 'Unusual powers' or some suitable title so we can put similar stories udner this thread. This Iraqi guy solved what is called the Bernoulli Numbers puzzle. Din't get though what these numbers are. I will try to read more about them if you can explain it would be nice personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/05/29/bernoulli-numbers-altoumaimi/
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Post by echnaton on Dec 22, 2010 8:40:58 GMT -4
I hope LO can change the topic of the thread into 'Unusual powers' or some suitable title so we can put similar stories udner this thread. This Iraqi guy solved what is called the Bernoulli Numbers puzzle. Din't get though what these numbers are. I will try to read more about them if you can explain it would be nice personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/05/29/bernoulli-numbers-altoumaimi/No unusual power with this girl, just oily skin. The kid may be a math wiz, and while unusual it is not all that uncommon with math genius to have great insights at a young age. We can celebrate people that have these kinds of gifts without ascribing paranormal powers to them. Many people have experienced knowing more than our teachers about things that are important enough to us to study them in detail. Good teachers inspire that kind of knowledge.
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Post by lionking on Dec 22, 2010 9:04:13 GMT -4
A look at several things in the video reveals what is going on here. And "magnetism" has nothing to do with it. First notice that everything that attaches to her skin is flat. The phone, the handle of the utensils and the coin are all flat and smooth surfaces. Secondly notice how when she attaches the ladle to ther had at around 3 minutes into the clip, she holds it in her right hand and presses it into her left. That is not a magnetic attraction, but the ladle handle sticking to the surface of her skin. I just stuck a credit card to my forehead right now. Its nothing special but is the result of oily skin. The girl may simply have more oily skin than most. TV news in the US is prone to presenting the sensational without much care for truth, particularly local news. I see no reason to think that Serbian TX would be any different. It''s not "magnetism," but moisture making the flat surfaces stick to her. I suspect they fall off in a few seconds, but the clips are not long enough. These things are commonly presented in children, because they don't know the difference between the forces involved. People don't suspect they are lying, so the children make a better demonstration. But the children are really a front for adults that are either lying of credulous enough to believe in unproven phenomenon when a straight forward explanation will suffice. View the end of the video. The utensil is a bit far from her hand. please watc the whole video and read their comments.
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Post by lionking on Dec 22, 2010 9:05:27 GMT -4
A look at several things in the video reveals what is going on here. And "magnetism" has nothing to do with it. First notice that everything that attaches to her skin is flat. The phone, the handle of the utensils and the coin are all flat and smooth surfaces. Secondly notice how when she attaches the ladle to ther had at around 3 minutes into the clip, she holds it in her right hand and presses it into her left. That is not a magnetic attraction, but the ladle handle sticking to the surface of her skin. I just stuck a credit card to my forehead right now. Its nothing special but is the result of oily skin. The girl may simply have more oily skin than most. TV news in the US is prone to presenting the sensational without much care for truth, particularly local news. I see no reason to think that Serbian TX would be any different. It''s not "magnetism," but moisture making the flat surfaces stick to her. I suspect they fall off in a few seconds, but the clips are not long enough. These things are commonly presented in children, because they don't know the difference between the forces involved. People don't suspect they are lying, so the children make a better demonstration. But the children are really a front for adults that are either lying of credulous enough to believe in unproven phenomenon when a straight forward explanation will suffice. View the end of the video. The utensil is a bit far from her hand. please watc the whole video and read their comments. I didn't say the kid has paranormal powers. I suggested turning the title to 'Unusual powers' if you read well. Still didn't get what are those numbers and what was the mystery that no one could solve before
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Post by echnaton on Dec 22, 2010 9:25:02 GMT -4
View the end of the video. The utensil is a bit far from her hand. please watc the whole video and read their comments. One edge of the curved handle is not tight to her skin. That is about it. Everything else was a flat smooth surface in full contact with her skin.
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Post by echnaton on Dec 22, 2010 9:27:56 GMT -4
I didn't say the kid has paranormal powers. I suggested turning the title to 'Unusual powers' if you read well. Still didn't get what are those numbers and what was the mystery that no one could solve before Well you threw the math wiz into a thread that started with a claim of paranormal powers. Oily skin is not unusual nor is it a power so it is unclear what connection you might be trying to draw outside of the paranormal.
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Post by lionking on Dec 22, 2010 11:29:57 GMT -4
I don't thik it is possible that a heavy utensil as such can be held on oily skin. What do the rest think? there was a head of department in Nis University who is studying this. he said he needds more experts with him to study her.
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Post by Data Cable on Dec 22, 2010 12:03:33 GMT -4
I don't thik it is possible that a heavy utensil as such can be held on oily skin. What do the rest think? I think if this girl's physiology is actually producing a magnetic field stronger than the gravitational attraction between the displayed objects and the earth, such a field should be easily detectable on a magnetometer. I'd like to see those measurements. And true-believing researchers (even sincere ones) have never been fooled by deception.
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Post by echnaton on Dec 22, 2010 12:45:21 GMT -4
I don't thik it is possible that a heavy utensil as such can be held on oily skin. What do the rest think? there was a head of department in Nis University who is studying this. he said he needds more experts with him to study her. Just how heavy are the kitchen tools? Thin stainless steel can be surprisingly light and there is no way to know if the handles are solid or hollow. For that matter we cannot tell if they are even steel. If it were a magnetic field, it would not grab onto stainless, or at least not very well. High quality stainless is not magnetic while cheaper versions retain a slight magnetic property. The coins are almost certainty non magnetic because ferric metals are not used in coins. Some of the other things attached to her are made from plastic. Also look at how she placed the ladle in her hand by pressing it to her skin. That is a sure sign of needing to make a tight contact. In essence, there is no reason to believe that magnetism, in any meaning of the term recognized by physics, comes into play on the examples shown in the video. As for the academic support, that is an argument from authority, second or third hand from a TV report. Why do you find this compelling? Do you have any substantial rebuttal to my critique?
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Post by Data Cable on Dec 22, 2010 13:31:49 GMT -4
Also look at how she placed the ladle in her hand by pressing it to her skin. That is a sure sign of needing to make a tight contact. Indeed. I'd like to see a photo of, for example, the ladle dangling vertically from the tip of its handle against her horizontal, downward-facing palm.
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Post by gillianren on Dec 22, 2010 15:03:54 GMT -4
I don't thik it is possible that a heavy utensil as such can be held on oily skin. What do the rest think? That you're about the most credulous person who posts here unless something directly contradicts what you want to be true?
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Post by lionking on Dec 23, 2010 3:54:06 GMT -4
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Post by lionking on Dec 23, 2010 4:03:30 GMT -4
I don't thik it is possible that a heavy utensil as such can be held on oily skin. What do the rest think? That you're about the most credulous person who posts here unless something directly contradicts what you want to be true? I thought you said you will not read my posts which I strongly appreciated.
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