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Post by lukepemberton on May 20, 2011 16:22:00 GMT -4
What was that skit in The Secret Policeman's Ball? After the umpteenth time the Apocalypse *doesn't* happen, the cult leader sends the members on their way with a cheery, "Well, we're bound to hit it right *some* day!" That's quite funny. Colleagues were discussing a similar take on this at work today. One day the cultists might get it right and be able to declare they were right after all. Except, they won't be around to declare victory. |
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Post by Data Cable on May 21, 2011 1:16:51 GMT -4
My bet though is on 6 hours after local solar noon. That was my other ponderance, whether YHWH would abide by our arbitrary mortal timekeeping standards and "beam up" entire time zones at once (what is the capactiy of the pattern buffer on His supplicant transporter, anyway?) or go by true meridian lines. I had exactly the same thought yesterday, perhaps subconsciously prompted by Carlin's bit about kids trying to stump the priest by surrounding a fairly straightforward sin with the most outrageous circumstances. |
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Post by gillianren on May 21, 2011 1:55:57 GMT -4
I'm sure Our Lord will take that into account.
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Post by Data Cable on May 21, 2011 2:40:26 GMT -4
Raptureready.com agrees with you and has all sorts of biblical reasoning to say why Brother Camping is wrong. But that's just it... they quote several Biblical passages essentially saying that Camping can't know, but they can't claim that he is wrong.From that site: Emphasis mine. These statements smack of hypocracy. The author, Chris Mangan, claims to believe that the Rapture will happen, and that no mortal can know when it will happen... which, by definition, means no mortal can known when it won't happen, either. Mangan has no basis on which to calculate the probability of an event which has never occurred in human history, of which no human has control, and of which there will (apparently) be no advance warning. By declaring that the date in question will come and go uneventfully, he has ruled out not only that date, but every date between then and whenever this piece was authored. Any believer who flatly sates that the rapture won't happen today unwittingly betrays their lack of faith that it will ever happen. |
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Post by echnaton on May 21, 2011 5:24:34 GMT -4
Raptureready.com agrees with you and has all sorts of biblical reasoning to say why Brother Camping is wrong. But that's just it... they quote several Biblical passages essentially saying that Camping can't know, but they can't claim that he is wrong.From that site: Emphasis mine. These statements smack of hypocracy. The author, Chris Mangan, claims to believe that the Rapture will happen, and that no mortal can know when it will happen... which, by definition, means no mortal can known when it won't happen, either. Mangan has no basis on which to calculate the probability of an event which has never occurred in human history, of which no human has control, and of which there will (apparently) be no advance warning. By declaring that the date in question will come and go uneventfully, he has ruled out not only that date, but every date between then and whenever this piece was authored. Any believer who flatly sates that the rapture won't happen today unwittingly betrays their lack of faith that it will ever happen. I viewed it as a healthy scientific skepticism. You know, realizing that knowledge is probabilistic and held provisional. Not to be held with pure certainty.  |
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Post by echnaton on May 21, 2011 5:28:15 GMT -4
Has anyone here been taken yet? Enquiring minds want to know
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Post by echnaton on May 21, 2011 6:08:50 GMT -4
Actually I am thinking about collecting some old clothes and arranging sets of them in public places to look like the former occupant was taken. We'll see how much spare time I have today.
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Post by lukepemberton on May 21, 2011 7:01:39 GMT -4
Has anyone here been taken yet? Enquiring minds want to know I've got my invitation. I've been told to bring a bottle and a board game. |
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Post by gwiz on May 21, 2011 11:39:33 GMT -4
Has anyone here been taken yet? Enquiring minds want to know Apparently some footballer has vanished from view in the press, leaving behind just the initials CTB. |
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Post by Halcyon Dayz, FCD on May 21, 2011 12:36:36 GMT -4
I'm still here.
It's 18:35 and there is no chaos outside.
Maybe the rapture happened in September 1994 as per Camping's previous prediction.
If only a few thousand people disappeared world-wide, it might have gone by without people realising it.
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Post by gillianren on May 21, 2011 13:40:42 GMT -4
I'm still here. It's 18:35 and there is no chaos outside. Maybe the rapture happened in September 1994 as per Camping's previous prediction. If only a few thousand people disappeared world-wide, it might have gone by without people realising it. It would say things about Camping, though, wouldn't it? And I don't think denying this day as the day of the Rapture is the same as denying belief in the Rapture. Certainly it's possible that it could have happened between the time the piece was written and the time the Rapture was claimed for, but I really do think the answer lies in the false prophets referenced in the Bible. By definition, claiming to know something that Jesus said no one knows would make you a false prophet in Christianity, and it would therefore be a true believer's duty to disbelieve you. |
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Post by lukepemberton on May 21, 2011 15:10:26 GMT -4
Well... it's gone 8 pm here. No chaos...
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Post by echnaton on May 21, 2011 17:11:18 GMT -4
Here is my favorite picture celebrating the rapture, so far.  |
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Post by BertL on May 21, 2011 17:45:26 GMT -4
Here's a hilarious short brickfilm dealing with the rapture. (Warning: it has a naughty word in it, but is very good nonetheless.) The joke is great. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVAtQW6FSuE |
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Post by gillianren on May 21, 2011 19:25:18 GMT -4
Does it actually say anywhere that people get Raptured naked?
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