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Post by gillianren on Jun 25, 2011 22:19:58 GMT -4
Several possibilities: - Said wheel is observed to be of flawed design.
- Said loving and wise parent is observed using a wheel of different design.
- Said wheel is determined to be invented not by said loving and wise parent, but by a monopolistic sibling.
And if the advice of one you trust is determined to be incorrect? And, of course, by whose standards is said parent loving and wise? I've seen people who think they are and are really vicious, petty, and heedless.
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Post by Data Cable on Jun 26, 2011 2:17:36 GMT -4
And, of course, by whose standards is said parent loving and wise? I've seen people who think they are and are really vicious, petty, and heedless. Oh, I quite agree, I was just granting the characterization to demonstrate other flaws in the reasoning (and torture a metaphor in the process.)
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Post by gillianren on Jun 26, 2011 18:10:55 GMT -4
Fair enough.
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Post by Jason on Jun 27, 2011 17:17:16 GMT -4
Can mankind discern what is good and evil on its own? Certainly we could, but if a loving and wise parent wishes to give you advice on what is good and evil, why reinvent the wheel? Several possibilities: - Said wheel is observed to be of flawed design.
- Said loving and wise parent is observed using a wheel of different design.
- Said wheel is determined to be invented not by said loving and wise parent, but by a monopolistic sibling.
If I saw those problems I might start to worry. Then you had best stop trusting them. But make sure you have the full explanation from them as to why their advice didn't seem to work right when you used it. Care to expound? This could be read either way - as people deliberately lying about how gravity works because it serves other agendas, or as gravity not actually working.
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Post by abaddon on Jun 29, 2011 4:36:12 GMT -4
And, of course, by whose standards is said parent loving and wise? I've seen people who think they are and are really vicious, petty, and heedless. Well, that's interesting. I know that some are like that, and I know that I have made my best endeavour with my own two, to encourage critical thinking, and a rational view of the world. Yet still I see some parents carrying on what I consider to be a form of abuse, giving conflicting strictures, mostly because it suits their own agenda, it seems to me. Freedom is the key for me and mine. We have the most outrageous conversations, and it is truly an honour to be regularly floored by a very pointy question from one of my kids.
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