Bart's 5:1 Russian superiority claim

[PhantomWolf]

So you are saying you have never believed anything Bart Sibrel has said?

[margamatix]

phantomwolf said:

So you are saying you have never believed anything Bart Sibrel has said?

Oh my giddy aunt.

We are specifically talking about this

sts60 said:

1. Sibrel's 5:1 superiority claim, which has been thoroughly debunked in this very thread. Does he still believe Sibrel's claim? What does he think the facts, which were not hard to dig out, say about Mr. Sibrel's competence and/or integrity?

And whether I do or do not, or have or have not believed in believed in any other claim made by Bart Sibrel is totally irrelevant to sts60's fabricated statement.


I have never made any statement whatsoever about any 5-1 superiority so I fail to see why I am being asked about it.

[PhantomWolf]

And whether I do or do not, or have or have not believed in believed in any other claim made by Bart Sibrel is totally irrelevant to sts60's fabricated statement.

I have never made any statement whatsoever about any 5-1 superiority so I fail to see why I am being asked about it.


sts60 is not claiming you did believe the 5:1 claim or that you brought it up or claimed it, he is pointed out to you that Bart made a 5:1 claim which was shown to be nothing like the truth when the numbers were crunched. He wants to know how Bart's claim about a subject where the numbers are easy to find and work out and yet he still got it totally and utterly wrong, affect your belief in other things that he has said, and how it affects his competence and/or integrity in your eyes. It has nothing to do with the 5:1 claim, or who made it, it has to do with how you see Bart Sibrel when you are shown the numbers and that his claims are so wildly out that they don't even come close to the truth.

[Bob B.]

margamatix said:

We are specifically talking about this

sts60 said:

1. Sibrel's 5:1 superiority claim, which has been thoroughly debunked in this very thread. Does he still believe Sibrel's claim? What does he think the facts, which were not hard to dig out, say about Mr. Sibrel's competence and/or integrity?

And whether I do or do not, or have or have not believed in believed in any other claim made by Bart Sibrel is totally irrelevant to sts60's fabricated statement.

I have never made any statement whatsoever about any 5-1 superiority so I fail to see why I am being asked about it.

Your evasion is noted. The question is,

Given the information provided here about Bart Sibrel, do you still find him a trustworthy, honest, and competent source?

EDIT: Deleted the word "still" from the question

[margamatix]

Bart Sibrel is simply one person who believes, as I do, that the Moon landings were faked. I have repeatedly drawn your attention to the video footage which clearly shows Charlie Duke being pulled upwards on a wire, and as far as I know (given that I have never watched any of them), this footage does not appear in any of Sibrel's videos.

I have also drawn your attention to the fact that doubling the speed of Apollo footage quite clearly shows that the "astronauts" are moving in 1/1 gravity, and as far as I know, BS has never mentioned that either.

Of couse, I may be wrong, and I am willing to stand corrected, because the simple truth is that I have never seen any of Bart Sibrel's videos

[Bob B.]

margamatix said:

Bart Sibrel is simply one person who believes, as I do, that the Moon landings were faked. I have repeatedly drawn your attention to the video footage which clearly shows Charlie Duke being pulled upwards on a wire, and as far as I know (given that I have never watched any of them), this footage does not appear in any of Sibrel's videos.

I have also drawn your attention to the fact that doubling the speed of Apollo footage quite clearly shows that the "astronauts" are moving in 1/1 gravity, and as far as I know, BS has never mentioned that either.

Of couse, I may be wrong, and I am willing to stand corrected, because the simple truth is that I have never seen any of Bart Sibrel's videos

Your evasion is again noted. The question has nothing to do with whether Apollo was real or not. The question is,

Given the information provided here about Bart Sibrel, do you still find him a trustworthy, honest, and competent source?

EDIT: Deleted the word "still" from the question

[margamatix]

bob said:

Your evasion is noted.

I'm asked "Do you still believe in Bart Sibrel's 5-1 superiority claim".


I reply that I have never even heard of any 5-1 superiority claim, so am unable to comment on it.


And that's "evasion"

[Bob B.]

margamatix said:

bob said:

Your evasion is noted.

I'm asked "Do you still believe in Bart Sibrel's 5-1 superiority claim".

I reply that I have never even heard of any 5-1 superiority claim, so am unable to comment on it.

And that's "evasion"

No you were not asked that. The question has nothing to do with any one specific claim made by Bart Sibrel. The question is whether or not you find him trustworthy, honest, and competent? Strike the word "still" from the question if that is giving a problem.

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[margamatix]

bob said:

The question has nothing to do with any one specific claim made by Bart Sibrel.

Yes it does. This is the question.


"Sibrel's 5:1 superiority claim, which has been thoroughly debunked in this very thread. Does he still believe Sibrel's claim?"



It has everything to do with one specific claim. Bart Sibrel's 5-1 superiority claim. As quoted above. But if you still can't see that, then with all due respect, I can't see the point of us wasting any more of each others time Bob.

[Bob B.]

margamatix said:

bob said:

The question has nothing to do with any one specific claim made by Bart Sibrel.

Yes it does. This is the question.

"Sibrel's 5:1 superiority claim, which has been thoroughly debunked in this very thread. Does he still believe Sibrel's claim?"

It has everything to do with one specific claim. Bart Sibrel's 5-1 superiority claim. As quoted above. But if you still can't see that, then with all due respect, I can't see the point of us wasting any more of each others time Bob.

Answer MY question,

Given the information provided here about Bart Sibrel, do you find him a trustworthy, honest, and competent source?

We could just as easily be talking about a receipe for dumplings, it really doesn't matter. The question is in regard to how Bart Sibrel conducts research and presents information. The specific claim is irrelevant.

[PhantomWolf]

Yes it does. This is the question.


"Sibrel's 5:1 superiority claim, which has been thoroughly debunked in this very thread. Does he still believe Sibrel's claim?"

Fine, then forget that question and answer this one.

Given the Bart Sibrel's inaccuracy about the 5:1 claim, do you find him a trustworthy, honest, and competent source?

[sts60]

Oh, fer cryin' out loud.

margamatix, I did not "fabricate" this statement. Rather than get on my high horse and get all huffy and distract from the issue at hand, though, I will stipulate that you didn't bring that one forward; it was my mistake to say so. I hereby withdraw that question and resubmit it as follows:

1. Sibrel's 5:1 superiority claim, which has been thoroughly debunked in this very thread. Does he believe Sibrel's claim? What does he think the facts, which were not hard to dig out, say about Mr. Sibrel's competence and/or integrity?

In other words, the same question minus the word "still". A thorough explanation of Sibrels 5:1 claim is found in this thread, along with an equally thorough refutation of his claim.

[margamatix]

phantomwolf said:

Given the Bart Sibrel's inaccuracy about the 5:1 claim, do you find him a trustworthy, honest, and competent source?

I don't know anything about the 5-1 claim, so how can I judge anything from it?

If you are trying to say "Do you believe that man has walked on the moon?", then the answer is "No. I don't believe that man has walked on the moon".

[margamatix]

sts60 said:

I will stipulate that you didn't bring that one forward; it was my mistake to say so.

.

Thank Gawd for that, I thought we were never going to get there.

[Bob B.]

Margarmatix, here it is plain and simple: Do you think Bart Sibrel is trustworthy, honest, and competent? This question has nothing to do with Apollo, the moon, his 5-to-1 superiority claim, or any other claim. Simply, do you think he's trustworthy, honest, and competent?