The Smoking Gun of Bart's "Smoking Gun" Footage

[mooned]

Thanks Al. I do read, but you guys are all ganging up so fast I can't keep up - plus I have been AFK.

This is all I need now. Best to all of you.

[Czero 101]

mooned said:

So before I go, could someone be so kind as to post the EXACT contact information at NASA for requesting Apollo audio and video?

Does anyone have the contact info that Jay has told me about?

alasdhair said:

Czero 101 told you here

Reading not your strong suit?

Apparently it isn't for him, but thats hardly surprising given his staunch refusal to acknowledge any of Jay's post that provide a counterpoint to Mooned's misbegotten theories.

MOONED... READ THIS... I'll even make it easier for you.

czero101 said:

mooned said:

So before I go, could someone be so kind as to post the EXACT contact information at NASA for requesting Apollo audio and video? Perhaps in seeing the raw footage, I will learn more about what happened.

So if you will, please provide a link to NASA - specific to requesting the Apollo audio and video. Thanks.

Oh yeah, and Jay - what is your website?

Funny, you have enough time to come here and make the claims you make - your first post alone must have take a fair amount of time to concoct - yet can't find the less than 30 seconds it takes to go to the NASA website and find the "Contact Us" page...

Let me save you what is obviously so burdensome a task:

Source: www.nasa.gov/about/contact/index.html

Related Public Inquiries Information

Public Communications and
Inquiries Management Office
NASA Headquarters
Suite 5K39
Washington, DC 20546-0001
[phone] (Office)
[phone] (Fax)
[e-mail]

Source: www.history.nasa.gov

For further information email mailto:[e-mail]

Cz

[Bob B.]

I guess mooned must have been ashamed of his performance here. He deleted all of his posts.

[mooned]

No, not ashamed. Just realized that my time and yours was wasted on ground that all of you have covered long before I arrived.

As to being unable to go to NASA's website, I've already emailed them at this address.

I thought maybe you guys had a more exact one. I guess there's a difference between being me and being Jay. When Jay writes and asks Bob if he has it - no one scoffs at him. But me? I'm supposed to know it all.

My guess is that Jay probably does have a more exact contact, so I'll check back and see.

Thanks again for all your kindness. It's been real.

[JayUtah]

you guys are all ganging up so fast I can't keep up

No. At first you complained that we weren't dealing with all your points. This was a problem for you. Now apparently you're the one falling behind, even though I limited my inquiry to only two of your original points: the comm garble and the backing-up video. On those points you simply "dug in" and restated your original belief without any attempt to understand or explain the evidence against you.

You can't even manage a discussion of two of your own points, and you can't even complain without contradicting yourself. Explain why I shouldn't believe you're not just trolling.

[echnaton]

But me? I'm supposed to know it all.

When you come here making claims, you are expected to be able to back them up. Your passive/aggressive manner does not give anyone much reason to take you seriously. If you had come asking questions, you would have received some of the best information on Apollo available anywhere and free to boot.

[JayUtah]

My guess is that Jay probably does have a more exact contact, so I'll check back and see.

I don't; sorry. I know that Bob ordered from them most recently because we discussed it, so I was hoping he had the address more closely at hand.

Yes, there is a difference between you and Bob. I have known Bob for years and find him to be invariably well-informed, forthright, and cordial. I have known you only for a few hours, during which time my opinion formed of your temperament is not especially favorable.

[mooned]

Thanks Jay for being kind enough to be willing to provide contact information. I hope Bob will get that to me, because even terrible people like me deserve to have access to NASA's archives.

And Jay, perhaps you don't like my temperament because it mirrors yours. I said nothing about comparing myself to Bob. I simply stated that there's seems to be some anger against me here - by example >> asking for help with the contact info landed me more harassment.

I apologize to all I've offended by my sarcasm. No doubt someone will turn this post into something against me as well, but so be it.

Thanks in advance, Bob, for any help you might give towards possibly a more fruitful contact email and phone number.

[AtomicDog]

And you have removed your posts in this thread and so have erased the record of your actions so they could be judged in context. Were you really harassed? Your own actions have made a fair judgement impossible.

In a lot of boards, what you have done would be a banning offense.

[Czero 101]

atomicdog said:

In a lot of boards, what you have done would be a banning offense.

True, but also on a lot of other boards, messages can't be modified or deleted by the poster after a short time, like 15 - 30 minutes, to prevent just this kind of thing.

Not meant as a criticism of this place or of L.O., just as an observation.

Edit: btw, L.O., is there a way for you to un-delete messages, or are they completely gone once deleted? Some other board's software only "soft deletes" messages and allows Admin / Mods to restore messages.
Cz

[scooter]

It's obvious that mooned stopped reading this entire thread after about 3 posts...every argument he presented is addressed.
Makes me crazy...looking even at BS's footage, it's easy to see that the entire event occurred as described...right there in the included audio.
As for the "talk"...one little blurb of stray comm and the entire mountain of evidence of the entire Apollo program is somehow deemed invalid??!! No further evidence or discussion is even considered appropriate?
Boy, now THAT's a belief system!

[LunarOrbit]

czero101 said:

True, but also on a lot of other boards, messages can't be modified or deleted by the poster after a short time, like 15 - 30 minutes, to prevent just this kind of thing.

Not meant as a criticism of this place or of L.O., just as an observation.

Don't worry, it is one of my biggest complaints about this forum software also. If it wasn't for the fact that we have made over 50,000 posts here that can't be transfered (and the inconvenience of requiring everyone to re-register) I would switch the forum to different software that I have more control over.

is there a way for you to un-delete messages

No, unfortunately they are gone.

mooned, if you delete or heavily modify even one more post I will ban you. If you don't have the balls to stand behind the claims you make then I suggest you don't make them in the first. If you are going to accuse NASA and it's supporters of being dishonest you might want to show some honesty yourself.

I will also not tolerate any personal insults. Discuss the topic politely or leave.

[Ginnie]

When I was reading this thread I couldn't figure out who Mooned was. I thought that you guys were making up a typical HB or something because I couldn't find where you were getting his quotes from! ;D

[Bob B.]

mooned said:

Thanks in advance, Bob, for any help you might give towards possibly a more fruitful contact email and phone number.

I'm afraid I don't presently have the contact information you are looking for. My experiences with NASA in the past is that they are generally very helpful. It might take a few calls but I'm sure you'll eventually make contact with the right people by going through the public relations office.

[JayUtah]

Sorry to put you on the spot, Bob. It was kind of a shot in the dark.